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#1 BROWNMAN

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Posted 10 April 2020 - 02:13 PM

As there is a definite dwindling in forum members on ISG,I am starting the next 12 headers that tell of different sections (12) as described by Homer in TGM book,I will begin each section with homers description , then hopefully we can all speak in our own words and describe how we think and feel we are moving the club through each of the sections.....TGM for dummies maybe?

 


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Posted 10 April 2020 - 02:37 PM

Probably should've reversed the order to have some continuity from top to bottom ?

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Posted 11 April 2020 - 11:30 AM

this was done at Sandringham driving range in Victoria.

 

good to see John observing social distancing from others on the range.


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Posted 11 April 2020 - 12:36 PM

I think he is in nsw now,i think

 

And why wouldn't he go to NSW, at least they are allowed to play golf there.


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Posted 11 April 2020 - 12:47 PM

And why wouldn't he go to NSW, at least they are allowed to play golf there.

yeah fair nuff,i rather play safe pun intended


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Posted 12 April 2020 - 12:47 PM

this was done at Sandringham driving range in Victoria.

 

good to see John observing social distancing from others on the range.

Surprized to not see Furzy with something strapped to his left arm or a contraption dangling from his hat :)

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Posted 13 April 2020 - 12:32 AM

He'd be better than Croaky but still uses all of the available training gadgets known to mankind ! 


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Posted 13 April 2020 - 08:12 AM

He'd be better than Croaky but still uses all of the available training gadgets known to mankind ! 

 

are these training gadgets better than trackman or flight scope.


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Posted 13 April 2020 - 08:24 AM

is he good to go to?...im toying with him or peter croker,i was going to book with croker but this bug ended that

John Furze is at 

Duntryleague Golf Club in Orange, NSW.

 

PS. they are open and playing in groups of 2.


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Posted 13 April 2020 - 10:30 AM

For me......nah....Divot and ball tells truer story......the ball is a biggy imo

I liked what Paul Smith said a long while back,either him or dart.....you know there is a half decent TGMer at the driving range by the sound of contact....little ball first has different sound


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Posted 15 April 2020 - 09:13 PM

Thanks for the video Brownman.

 

Why do we need 1 and 3? 

 



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Posted 15 April 2020 - 11:14 PM

That guy is unbelievable. He has a full shoulder turn with little hip turn and leg movement. To get that sort of turn, I have to use heaps of leg and hip movement. It’s chalk and cheese. 



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Posted 16 April 2020 - 12:14 AM

1 and 3 sections madness?

In the video you posted the coach says 1 is address, 2 is impact fix and 3 is address with the impact fix. It appears to me the impact fix is a forward press where he regrips the club giving him a stronger grip before feeling the need to return the club to perpendicular to the ground before starting the swing. 

Why not just start at impact fix and make a swing from there?

A lot of mainstream coaching is obsessed with straight lines when they are irrelevant to the result. Why do our feet have to start parallel to the target? Why does our club have to start perpendicular to the ground from a front view?

 

I always saw Nicklaus as starting with a small forward press in his setup and I think McIlroy does as well.

 

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I realise club golfers don't move like the best players but they can still start their swing from a desired impact position. This is what I like about Noren and following Noren's method would look different for everyone because he isn't chasing a look. He and his coach are chasing a result. I think the "mainstream" starting position is one of the reasons so many amateurs struggle and that was just something I noticed in the video you posted that looked odd to me. If the impact fix is such a good thing why not just start from there and let it influence everything about the setup?

 

Most club golfers, if they setup with impact in mind, would look more like Trevino with an open stance and the ball back relative to their feet to allow for their lack of athleticism. 

 

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Posted 16 April 2020 - 12:16 AM

Please,let us not forget,Kelly said this isnt the only to swing,but it is easiest without undue body stress,thats all well and good to be able to be as flexible as Noren,but if you have a look at his head position after impact it is still looking down at impact position well after ball has gone,Tom T explains that out head weighs about 8lbs,could be more,and he and homer want us to follow ball and the head is not left behind causing neck damage down the track,neck and spine stay more in line through swing......check out these young korean girls...around 30.38 mark   ETGA:掘奈津佳プロ最近(2012.09〜2013.01)の練習風景集 - YouTube


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Posted 16 April 2020 - 12:43 AM

Please,let us not forget,Kelly said this isnt the only to swing,but it is easiest without undue body stress,thats all well and good to be able to be as flexible as Noren,but if you have a look at his head position after impact it is still looking down at impact position well after ball has gone,Tom T explains that out head weighs about 8lbs,could be more,and he and homer want us to follow ball and the head is not left behind causing neck damage down the track,neck and spine stay more in line through swing......check out these young korean girls...around 30.38 mark   ETGA:掘奈津佳プロ最近(2012.09〜2013.01)の練習風景集 - YouTube

I've seen that video and I like it a lot although the good use of an impact bag would have had the same result. I wasn't posting Noren as a model swing but a model method. Using impact as a reference rather then the desire to be lined up a certain way. I've seen footage of Steve Elkington working with a famous golf machine coach whose name escapes me. Ben ………. I think. And they are working a lot on impact. Although I disagree with the impact theory being used. But I was initially referencing the video you posted where the coach seemed to want to return to a "mainstream" address position before starting the swing.






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