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#1 dgoloks

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Posted 27 March 2020 - 06:57 PM

Hi 

 

I just wanted to check what other clubs are doing around Australia in respect of Annual Subs when Golf Club is required to shut-down due to Government mandate as a result of Coronavirus?

 

The only reason i ask is my club has informed me that they will continue with my monthly direct debits for my Annual Subs while the club is closed. 

 

Cheers

 

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Posted 27 March 2020 - 07:04 PM

Hi 

 

I just wanted to check what other clubs are doing around Australia in respect of Annual Subs when Golf Club is required to shut-down due to Government mandate as a result of Coronavirus?

 

The only reason i ask is my club has informed me that they will continue with my monthly direct debits for my Annual Subs while the club is closed. 

 

Cheers

 

D

Interesting question

what about those members who paid annual fee up front, will the get their money back.

This is going to be a huge liability for clubs, probably best way is to give you a credit note.

If this blows over quickly then could be up again in 3 to 4 weeks, although the word on street is more likely September or October.

 

other option is to leave, and re join later in year (assuming you golf club is still alive)

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Posted 27 March 2020 - 07:24 PM

Yeah true i could leave and rejoin but dont want to get ping for a entrance fee again. 

 

I did find this in the ACCC site where under "regular payments" in section "Gym membership" which is most akin to this situation states that regular payments should not be taken when a service has ceased. This is treated separately from upfront payments. 

 
 
I am no lawyer but i would think the same theory applies?


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Posted 27 March 2020 - 07:35 PM

The monthly payment is probably a convenience facility to help members pay their ANNUAL membership fee, not a monthly membership.

However, I read something today which said members could make a claim on organisations which fail to provide the agreed service.

Usually, when a member resigns from a club, they forego the membership paid.

Forget where that came from, may have been Consumer Affairs Victoria.
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Posted 28 March 2020 - 11:44 AM

We are getting a house credit for the time the course is closed

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Posted 28 March 2020 - 09:32 PM

I was thinking about getting 20 of us together and bankrupting our club


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Posted 28 March 2020 - 11:27 PM

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Posted 29 March 2020 - 10:53 AM

Clubs have very high fixed costs and need the money.  As it stands I am sure that the shut down will break some clubs.  If you want to see your club join the list sure don't pay your subs.

 

If its a capacity to pay issue then I am sure most if not all clubs would work with you.


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Posted 30 March 2020 - 11:52 AM

I agree with hawker....if people want to demand a refund ....then I assume they don't mind letting the greens and fairways grow and not get mowed for 6 months.  The maintenance of a golf course during shutdown is totally different to the maintenance of a gym/building that you can just close the doors at.  If there isn't a pool there, then the cost to maintain weights and a yoga/aerobics room are zero.

 

There would be very limited savings in staffing costs when shutting down a golf course.  And there would be a significant drop in revenues and profits from visitor's green fees and kitchen sales.


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Posted 30 March 2020 - 11:57 AM

Most clubs will be gone after this..

 

Never to reopen..

 

We can bet there will be NO help from GA that's for sure..

Any free $'s they get will go straight into their elite golf wankathons meanwhile the average club is dead..

 

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Hi 

 

I just wanted to check what other clubs are doing around Australia in respect of Annual Subs when Golf Club is required to shut-down due to Government mandate as a result of Coronavirus?

 

The only reason i ask is my club has informed me that they will continue with my monthly direct debits for my Annual Subs while the club is closed. 

 

Cheers

 

D


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Posted 31 March 2020 - 12:18 PM

ACT courses open. All the usual restrictions including pairs / 2 ball only.
Notice GA have since made another recommendation for a complete shut dow.
I assume ACT will follow !

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Posted 31 March 2020 - 10:32 PM

ACT courses open. All the usual restrictions including pairs / 2 ball only.
Notice GA have since made another recommendation for a complete shut " dow ".
I assume ACT will follow !

Is your quote re the " shut dow " in anyway related to the ASX or the Dow Jones ?

Hoping that it's not a cryptic clue, Vossy 

I'm slightly worried that the market will take another dow turn because of your faux par.  


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Posted 02 April 2020 - 02:41 AM

ACT courses open. All the usual restrictions including pairs / 2 ball only.
Notice GA have since made another recommendation for a complete shut dow.
I assume ACT will follow !

 

NSW courses have re opened, with same restrictions we had a few weeks ago but they are open.

 

extract from GA.

 

".It remains Golf Australia’s formal recommendation that, based on the Prime Minister’s announcement on Sunday evening, 29 March, that all golf clubs and facilities should close until further notice.

However, Golf Australia acknowledges that some state/territory governments have since taken alternative positions. As promised, we will keep you up to date as and when additional state/territory announcements are made so you are clear on the legalities of golf courses and their operations moving forward."


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Posted 03 April 2020 - 07:33 PM

ACT courses open. All the usual restrictions including pairs / 2 ball only.
Notice GA have since made another recommendation for a complete shut dow.
I assume ACT will follow !

 

No they won't be doing that, we will cause we are the nanny state



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Posted 05 April 2020 - 04:51 PM

I took up golf two months ago. It was exactly what i needed after being forced into retirement from cricket due to injuries.

 

I just paid a years membership up front about a week before the closures in Victoria.

 

My logic is that I am not going to ask for a refund unless I become financially desperate.

 

I must confess it does frustrate me that bottle shops which are small, enclosed and sell unhealthy products are considered essential. Golf courses aren't essential I admit but they are certainly healthy and very safe compared to small enclosed spaces.

 

I can't see golf courses in Victoria staying closed for six months. Eventually it will dawn on the Government that although not essential they are safe. 

 

Does anyone else have a view on this?


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