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#1 Eaglehwk

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Posted 17 May 2019 - 09:37 PM

From my sources, after the fallout with Huntingdale Nath is considering Spring Valley and possibly Kingston Heath.

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Posted 17 May 2019 - 10:09 PM

Spring Valley could be a possibility, Kingston Heath no chance.

 

Capital could be a possibility if Rossdale don't get their act together.  :lol:



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Posted 17 May 2019 - 10:16 PM

From my sources, after the fallout with Huntingdale Nath is considering Spring Valley and possibly Kingston Heath.

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The stand alone club could be under threat in a competitive market. Say for example Spring Valley, Southern and Keysborough decide to sign a 10 year agreement to offer reciprocal rights to each other and have a uniform pricing strategy across all their membership categories and comp fees with a rotating competition roster so men, ladies, vets, 9 hole players could find something at one of the three courses everyday of the week. They wouldn't even have to merge or fold to attract a lot more members. The surrounding clubs would either have to jump on board or struggle. 


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Posted 17 May 2019 - 10:43 PM

The stand alone club could be under threat in a competitive market. Say for example Spring Valley, Southern and Keysborough decide to sign a 10 year agreement to offer reciprocal rights to each other and have a uniform pricing strategy across all their membership categories and comp fees with a rotating competition roster so men, ladies, vets, 9 hole players could find something at one of the three courses everyday of the week. They wouldn't even have to merge or fold to attract a lot more members. The surrounding clubs would either have to jump on board or struggle. 

If they all jumped on board, nothing would change, there would still be clubs struggling for members and to balance their books.

 

The Melbourne market is over supplied, more clubs will fold.

 

The example you provide does not diminish costs unless a merger occurred and a decrease of management/administration and course staff occurred. It does offer increased value to the membership possibly to the detriment of other clubs of a similar status nearby.


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Posted 18 May 2019 - 09:57 AM

Could you imagine a merge with Keysborough or Southern and the fallout of members when they had to pay $5k per year subs ?

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Posted 18 May 2019 - 10:14 AM

Could you imagine a merge with Keysborough or Southern and the fallout of members when they had to pay $5k per year subs ?
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Can you imagine the effect when they no longer have to pay $5K per year subs ?
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Posted 18 May 2019 - 04:49 PM

If they all jumped on board, nothing would change, there would still be clubs struggling for members and to balance their books.

 

The Melbourne market is over supplied, more clubs will fold.

 

The example you provide does not diminish costs unless a merger occurred and a decrease of management/administration and course staff occurred. It does offer increased value to the membership possibly to the detriment of other clubs of a similar status nearby.

The value was the main point. It would make the membership much more enticing. I can't imagine it ever happening although governments are constantly signing trade and immigration deals so you would think a few golf clubs could get together and create a playing deal for their members.



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Posted 18 May 2019 - 04:54 PM

Could you imagine a merge with Keysborough or Southern and the fallout of members when they had to pay $5k per year subs ?

Jon...

 

It was purely hypothetical as I'm not aware of the fees at these clubs but are they really that far apart?



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Posted 19 May 2019 - 05:15 PM

Spring Valley could be a possibility, Kingston Heath no chance.
 
Capital could be a possibility if Rossdale don't get their act together.  :lol:


Spring Valley were taken off the list of possible mergers when the Huntingdale talks broke down, Nash just not interested.
 
 

It was purely hypothetical as I'm not aware of the fees at these clubs but are they really that far apart?


The yearly subs at the above clubs are $3k ish and the Nash are $5k plus and then buy a share down the track. Seems a lot of ex Kingswood guys have jumped ship from Pen and quite afew have left SV in the last month or so, just before the eofy !
Not sure what the random post from Phil had to do with anything ? I don't know any club that has merged and given free membership, ever !
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Posted 19 May 2019 - 06:07 PM

I wasn't suggesting anything free, just no longer 5K. Maybe 3K perhaps.
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Posted 19 May 2019 - 08:32 PM

I wasn't suggesting anything free, just no longer 5K. Maybe 3K perhaps.

When was the last time you saw fees at a golf club come down ?

 

As the National juggernaut gets bigger and more powerful over the next decade the fee structure will double in size and cost. The share prices will also increase as the amount of variety in courses to play increases ! 

Jon...

 

ps: bottom line is you still won't be able to take your own cart :(



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Posted 20 May 2019 - 12:45 PM

I agree Jon, they never come down.

If I could readily afford those fees, the extra for a cart wouldn't bother me.

But I've retired to the country where golf is really cheap, and many courses have few carts. So, I have my own so I don't miss out.
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Posted 20 May 2019 - 06:22 PM

I wasn't suggesting anything free, just no longer 5K. Maybe 3K perhaps.


Maybe for one of those tier 3/4 courses you play at. :)

No chance for any Melbourne club. Operating costs keep going up, most members don’t spend money to help support the club.

The only successful club out your way that has cheaper membership is Eastwood. They do a great job.

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Posted 20 May 2019 - 06:26 PM

I agree Jon, they never come down.
If I could readily afford those fees, the extra for a cart wouldn't bother me.
But I've retired to the country where golf is really cheap, and many courses have few carts. So, I have my own so I don't miss out.


I must say we are so fortunate to have so many fantastic country courses at really good rates.

A lot of them as you know have fantastic volunteer support.
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Posted 21 May 2019 - 07:52 PM

Maybe for one of those tier 3/4 courses you play at. :)
No chance for any Melbourne club. Operating costs keep going up, most members don’t spend money to help support the club.
The only successful club out your way that has cheaper membership is Eastwood. They do a great job.


If any of the clubs out my way charged $3K, they'd have no members. Eastwood is in suburban Melb, not the country.
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