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#1 Forrest Gardener

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 06:20 AM

An article lamenting the change of language

 

https://golfweek.com...744-2018-r-i-p/


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Posted 12 March 2019 - 09:47 AM

Good article, try playing next to a 747 taking off, the penalty is not wearing ear plugs.

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Posted 12 March 2019 - 10:18 PM

Forest, it's a very Yank thing to change golfing wording, rules, equipment and the ball size. 

 

They have been a distant second cousin to the Brits for acouple of hundred years now, with regards to the game of golf and its development.

 

When we should be trying to preserve the history and traditions of the game the US of A are keen to change the basics for better or worse.

 

It won't be long now until the male handicap limit reaches 45 or even 54 !

 

If we end up getting a standard mulligan per nine, then I'll have a hard look at playing snooker or darts in my retirement.

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 06:01 AM

The male handicap limit is already 54 in many parts of the world.



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Posted 13 March 2019 - 06:40 AM

Forest, it's a very Yank thing to change golfing wording, rules, equipment and the ball size. 

 

They have been a distant second cousin to the Brits for acouple of hundred years now, with regards to the game of golf and its development.

 

When we should be trying to preserve the history and traditions of the game the US of A are keen to change the basics for better or worse.

 

It won't be long now until the male handicap limit reaches 45 or even 54 !

 

If we end up getting a standard mulligan per nine, then I'll have a hard look at playing snooker or darts in my retirement.

Jon...  

 

Side saddle would work in snooker. Just sayin  ;)


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Posted 13 March 2019 - 07:27 AM

Strange article IMO, and not very well written. The hazards haven't died or been removed from the game. The word "hazard" has been removed in the rules of golf because it doesn't fit and probably never did for with the true meaning of the word. A hazard is something which poses a danger - in the context of golf a hazard is something that poses a danger to a players score. This could be trees, divot, sprinkler head, rough, rain, wind, water, sand, loose impediments, an annoying playing partner etc. Anyway you get my drift.
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Posted 13 March 2019 - 09:26 AM

The greatest hazard on any golf course I play is inside my skull.


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Posted 13 March 2019 - 12:39 PM

Forest, it's a very Yank thing to change golfing wording, rules, equipment and the ball size. 

 

They have been a distant second cousin to the Brits for acouple of hundred years now, with regards to the game of golf and its development.

 

When we should be trying to preserve the history and traditions of the game the US of A are keen to change the basics for better or worse.

 

It won't be long now until the male handicap limit reaches 45 or even 54 !

 

If we end up getting a standard mulligan per nine, then I'll have a hard look at playing snooker or darts in my retirement.

Jon...  

So true if it wasnt for the Yanks we;d still be playing hickory and gutta balls!


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Posted 13 March 2019 - 05:37 PM

Why is it that someone always has to step in and spoil the thread by bringing logic into play. :ph34r: :ph34r:


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Posted 13 March 2019 - 09:17 PM

Side saddle would work in snooker. Just sayin  ;)


I've already tried it and was told very quickly that I had to keep atleast one foot planted on the floor to play a shot.
Couldn't really understand what the problem was by standing on the table to play ! They were humourless punters down Rossdale way.
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Posted 14 March 2019 - 08:34 AM

I tend to agree with that article to be honest.

 

While its all trivial at the end of the day, saying "penalty area" just doesn't feel like it fits in with the theme of a golf course.

 

Most people seem to be continuing to just say hazard anyway.


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Posted 14 March 2019 - 10:11 AM

I tend to agree with that article to be honest.

 

While its all trivial at the end of the day, saying "penalty area" just doesn't feel like it fits in with the theme of a golf course.

 

Most people seem to be continuing to just say hazard anyway.

Lots of people still say "sand trap" and that went out at least a decade ago.  Shakespeare summed it up, "Much Ado About Nothing".


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Posted 14 March 2019 - 03:44 PM

Those who have played a game for while get used to the language. The formal and colloquial.
After a while we get used to the change in formal language. Resenting change is useless.
However some colloquial language persists for a very long time.
I think “Pin” is one. Much more convenient than Flagstick.
Those who have played a while, particularly those who have some formal responsibility...example Match Committee owe it to the newcomers, and younger people to use the new Official (formal) language in many situations.
Examples would be posting Local Rules, redrafting Terms of Competition, (yes kill the term Conditions in that context.
If we keep using the word ‘hazards’ we can cause others to be confused in trying to come to grips with The Rules.
Red Penalty Area is rather clunky...so was Lateral Water Hazard.
Bunkers now have a stand alone Rule, I am pleased to say. Just about everything on Bunkers was buried in the defunct Rule 13.
Keep the old colloquial stuff alive,though, please.
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Posted 14 March 2019 - 07:57 PM

Keep the old colloquial stuff alive,though, please.

 

The only one I regret seeing disappear is "rub of the green" but it was generally misused anyway.  :(


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Posted 14 March 2019 - 10:58 PM

Stymie/stymied was not only a fabulous term but a great game changer !
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