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#106 BROWNMAN

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 12:21 PM

 

Stricker was a hell of a good player. I also think he was a little lucky that he struck his hot patch in a period prior to some of today's greats (DJ, Speith, Rory et al) establishing themselves and Tiger being on his wane period. I also think of DeChambeau as being someone successful who plays without a ton of lag. Being tall, athletic, strong really helps. Perhaps his swing isn't one for the smaller or weaker player? Good example of someone who gets a lot of his power through rotation. 

 
For me those short chip shots are all about commitment. Of course you have to get the club and ball to meet at near bottom of arc. I've found some coaches nowadays always seem to quote "use the bounce". I find this can be a little confusing and sometimes think they don't quite know what they're talking about, but they actually suggest almost flipping or pre releasing the hands before impact. I have tried this method and it takes a good lie and steely nerves. The fear of blading it over the green is real. However when you can pull it off and trust your swing, it can work well. The other thing they all seem to say is pick a spot on the green that you want the ball to land before rolling out. I always struggle with this concept and rely upon feel. I'd say the best exponents of short game would be very good at visualising where they land the ball and pulling that shot off. There are some other little things I do for a short chip. If I need to get extra height I also play it closer to the body and clubshaft more vertical. Some lower chips you can experiment with the method of extra vertical shaft and play it off the toe. So you reduce the amount of surface area or contact point of the club and the grass. It can minimise possible flubbed chips. Grip..strong or weak can alter trajectory. Ball position obviously. Practice is the best cure for chipping blues in my opinion. Hence I've just joined a new club which has some decent practice facilities. It's a massive boon joining Bonnie Doon. Finishing with a rhyme...mic drop...lol. 

 

best comment on this so far imo...commitment...love it,and its the root cause of most poor chips imo,for me,i absolutely use lasr 3 fingers on left hand (righty)and unload to bottom of swing  down the plane of the swing,sometimes to ensure "commitment" i may give it a bit of right elbow into shot insuring i take it all the way down,thats maybe using bounce?


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Posted 15 March 2019 - 09:49 PM

Yes, seriously. Even when I think I'm committed (or should be) I find that my actual swing into the ball (as compared to loose practice swings) is not what I intended. So it's the brain and fear getting in the way. A ton of this game is played between the ears as we have all heard ad infinitum. However we tend to gloss over this all too readily or forget about it. I often think about how I feel half way through a round or even after a round I'll go to the nets just to hammer home something. The feeling of looseness and ability to play without those early game nerves or physical restrictions is real. I try to repeat that feeling in the round. It's not easy. 


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#108 Zenstb

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 08:40 AM


Been working on getting a little more shoulder tilt on backswing. May not look like a lot more but it feels quite a bit more steeper than a few months back.

Combining this with what feels like more of a shut clubface on way back which is probably more or less square to spine.

Noticing that the lifting up-ness of body is lessening. Have also been standing a little more erect at address as per GG.

Bum tucked under and less of that Adam Scott athletic arse out super straight back feeling that I was actually trying to achieve earlier.

The downswing thoughts have been retaining wrist angles and trying to rotate earlier and more. As many have said, it takes time to drill major changes into the swing naturally.

Also there will be a limit to what positions I can achieve due to lack of flexibility and back/neck issues. Have to say that all this extra golf is making things worse with my problems. But you play through it, probably to later detriment. Some days the early back foot lift is still there. Somedays not so much. Another thing I try to think of prior to swinging club back.


Impact is definitely getting better. Ball going further. Getting 56o out close to 100mtrs which was unheard of even fairly recently. Some swings the lag feels better than others so that's clearly still a problem too.


Hopefully these videos load now. Having computer issues. 2nd vid shows an abbreviated follow through from a little bit behind down the line.

Was hitting some Yellow range balls over 170mtrs with 6 iron. One over 180mtrs. Lite wind behind.




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Stick to the plan.
Keep on working on your tilts and fine tuning the rotation.
Learn to rotate so everything matches up.
Turn smooth and ensure you turn first.
The hands are slotting perfectly on the downswing now.
Stick to the plan, keep on doing what you are doing.
As the tilts and rotation improves everything else will improve.
For now the lag is matching your pattern.
This will change and match up as the tilts and rotation improves.
Keep up the great work.
Coordination is the key to movement

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 08:40 AM

Yep, shall do. Not sure how much more tilt I can get anatomically speaking. It feels much steeper than even the start of this thread. 

Can't seem to get that left knee kicking out and around start to the downswing though. I think I might have too much pressure on the left side at the top of my backswing. 

So trying to initiate transition by the GG type left knee move (which was really Hogan and Snead but not quite as ungainly as GG) something doesn't work.

Probably need to get some video of that to see what/why that is. 



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Posted 18 March 2019 - 06:43 AM

Yep, shall do. Not sure how much more tilt I can get anatomically speaking. It feels much steeper than even the start of this thread.
Can't seem to get that left knee kicking out and around start to the downswing though. I think I might have too much pressure on the left side at the top of my backswing.
So trying to initiate transition by the GG type left knee move (which was really Hogan and Snead but not quite as ungainly as GG) something doesn't work.
Probably need to get some video of that to see what/why that is.

Tilts are looking good. Ingrain the current tilts. They are working well as you are now slotting the club perfectly on the way down.
Looking good mate.

Edited by Zenstb, 18 March 2019 - 06:44 AM.

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