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#1 Forrest Gardener

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 09:27 AM

Closure of the course has been rumoured for some time. A quick google search seems to confirm that closure is now planned rather than rumoured. It seems like June 2019 is the date.

 

As always there are people who know the price of everything and the value of nothing when they are out to make a buck. The quotes below from local accountant Darren Halpin suggest to me that he and the group who own the land are not at all sad to see it turned into housing. In fact I suspect that keeping the course open was nothing more than a ruse to claim that they tried but just couldn't make it pay.

 

He expresses attitudes about the worthless nature of a golf course which do not form overnight. From https://www.golfindu...e-in-june-2019/

 

"he said he was trying to ensure better community use of the northern beaches asset. At the moment, only golfers use it, and there’s 150 members here, and maybe some visitors, he said. That’s all they use: 100ha of land. Now there’s going to be thousands of people using it annually, with local people coming to use the facilities: people walking along new walking tracks up to the clubhouse, parks for families, activation areas for entertainment and activities."

 

To repeat "150 members and maybe some visitors". Absolutely shameful. It was far more than that when your group bought the property Mr Halpin. And fancy hiding your profit making motive behind a claim that thousands would now use the land. Tell me where that has EVER happened when a golf course has been carved up for housing.

 

Shame on you Mr Halpin.


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Posted 09 February 2019 - 11:17 AM

A similar situation exists at Northlakes just outside Brisbane.

Are you a member at Paradise Palms or live close by?

#3 CaNadiAn MiCk

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 03:16 PM

A similar situation exists at Northlakes just outside Brisbane.

Are you a member at Paradise Palms or live close by?

They want to close course and put up a retirement home there at NL.

 

Happening around the country- facilities potentially asset rich but struggling to pay the bills or make any real profit.

 

It will keep happening.


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Posted 10 February 2019 - 07:01 AM

Shame that PP is disappearing, whilst Halpin may not have helped he didn't cause the problem, been a few owners over the years who couldn't make it work.

Monolithic clubhouse with associated staff costs bleeding the life out of the golf revenue.

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Posted 10 February 2019 - 07:46 AM

Is it worth a final game there or has the course deteriorated as a result of the miss management?

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Posted 10 February 2019 - 08:39 AM

Disappointed to hear although most people new it was happening and such a Lovely golf course 
I am surprised they didn't wait until the new Chinese supper village opened to see how many members joined from there.
I guess now half moon Bay will pickup on a heap of new members. 



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Posted 11 February 2019 - 09:21 AM

https://www.saveparadisepalms.com.au/
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Posted 21 February 2019 - 12:28 PM

Oh dear, I was going to play at Easter. Any tips on the next best course in the area - Palmer Sea Reef?

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Posted 21 February 2019 - 07:58 PM

Oh dear, I was going to play at Easter. Any tips on the next best course in the area - Palmer Sea Reef?

 
 

Sea Reef or Mirage if you are in Port Douglas.
 
Cairns GC is worth a hit too. Much under rated in my book.


Agree with Forrest, enjoyed playing at Cairns GC, if you are ever tempted to go to Half Moon Bay.....don't

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 04:37 AM

They want to close course and put up a retirement home there at NL.

Happening around the country- facilities potentially asset rich but struggling to pay the bills or make any real profit.

It will keep happening.


Wonder if PLG, who are now in control of Pelican Waters, will try to grab North Lakes too?

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 06:41 AM

Wonder if PLG, who are now in control of Pelican Waters, will try to grab North Lakes too?

doubt it. They aren’t golf operators and have DA already in place for PW

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 04:55 PM

doubt it. They aren’t golf operators and have DA already in place for PW

 

I doubt North Lakes will be sold as a 'golf operation' ... it's prime for 'another' redevelopment, and well, yeah, the aged care / over 55's 'resort' style developers / operators like Palm Lakes Group seem to have the money ATM and the ear / influence of the various levels of government to get the approval.

 

I just don't know why Golf Clubs, and Bowls Clubs haven't worked it they should be the developers / operators of these 'new' aging population facilities. Simple add on and feeder base to the club operations, add in some 'commercial space' for Doctors etc to lease and bingo the golf club / bowls club have themselves a side line income that links with their core demographic.


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Posted 22 February 2019 - 05:03 PM

I doubt North Lakes will be sold as a 'golf operation' ... it's prime for 'another' redevelopment, and well, yeah, the aged care / over 55's 'resort' style developers / operators like Palm Lakes Group seem to have the money ATM and the ear / influence of the various levels of government to get the approval.

I just don't know why Golf Clubs, and Bowls Clubs haven't worked it they should be the developers / operators of these 'new' aging population facilities. Simple add on and feeder base to the club operations, add in some 'commercial space' for Doctors etc to lease and bingo the golf club / bowls club have themselves a side line income that links with their core demographic.

boards and egos get in the way and then too late

Re north lakes. Already working with a developer but having big community backlash from residents which many didn’t even know there was a golf course there fornpadt 20
Years!
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Posted 23 February 2019 - 07:10 AM

boards and egos get in the way and then too late

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Not exclusive to golf or bowls clubs.

Not exclusive to volunteer based boards either.

But.

Some volunteer based boards seem to be more strategic and think further ahead than a couple of years. The better ones seem to have a couple of key people who lead the thinking, usually dynamic personalities with relevant knowledge.
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Posted 23 February 2019 - 04:18 PM

Not exclusive to golf or bowls clubs.

Not exclusive to volunteer based boards either.

But.

Some volunteer based boards seem to be more strategic and think further ahead than a couple of years. The better ones seem to have a couple of key people who lead the thinking, usually dynamic personalities with relevant knowledge.

You pretty much hit it on the head-  a "good board", long term planning, and a culture to help the entire club and not factions within.


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