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#1 CaNadiAn MiCk

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Posted 15 January 2019 - 10:14 AM

A LOT of European pros say they’ve witnessed cheating during tournament rounds

 

When it comes to cheating on the golf course, not even the pros are perfect.

GOLF recently polled 34 European Tour players for the latest edition of our Anonymous Pro Survey, and 45 percent of them said they have witnessed a fellow player cheat during a tournament round.

Those numbers are surprisingly similar to what we found on the PGA Tour. Conducting the same survey on the PGA Tour last year, 44 percent said they had witnessed a fellow pro cheat.

The European Tour players were also asked if they had ever personally broken a rule and not reported it, and only 3 percent admitted to doing so (although not as a pro).

“When I was 11 and it still bothers me,” one said.

“No, I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night,” said another.

In the previous poll, not one PGA Tour pro admitted to having broken a rule without reporting it.

The complete “Anonymous Pro Survey: European edition” comes out on Tuesday. Thirty-four pros, including Ryder Cuppers and major winners, dish on Tiger Woods, the Ryder Cup, annoying American players and more.

Do you think they cheat on purpose or lack of knowledge of the rules? We do that with driving a car all the time, luckily dont get called out on it.

Is this happening in local competitions?

 


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Posted 15 January 2019 - 10:50 AM

Lot of players might inadvertently "cheat" due to lack of knowledge of the rules..... group I usually play with a fair knowledge of the rules but we are only human ..... if in doubt we put a second ball in play and consult the block of flats post round.....

 

Biggest and hardest to police form of cheating is sand bagging, handicap manipulation, deliberately  throwing off, call it what you want but it is the biggest blight on the game. The scramble has an awful lot to answer for


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Posted 15 January 2019 - 11:05 AM

I'm sure there would be things like replacing the ball further in front of your marker, taking your stance in a way that gets some branches or grass out of the way of your swing, thing like that where you're not deliberately cheating but not thinking about what you're doing critically.

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Posted 15 January 2019 - 11:22 AM

This game can wear down a golfer during a bad spell and or when he can't seem to get a break (a favourable bounce or deflection, bad lies etc). There is a temptation during these spells to even it up a bit. Golf can be a cruel game - some players have difficulties handling the perverseness of the game.

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Posted 15 January 2019 - 12:47 PM

There is a massive amount of "cheating" happening in club comps, it's largely harmless stuff done by blokes who are handicapped to their level of rules knowledge.

I love these pros, they've all seen someone cheat yet nobody reported it, nobody refused to sign a card and none of them had actually done it themselves...…..great.

One of the best examples of professionally sanctioned cheating was Jimmy Walkers comment that he "backstopped" for players he liked.
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Posted 15 January 2019 - 12:55 PM

There is a massive amount of "cheating" happening in club comps, it's largely harmless stuff done by blokes who are handicapped to their level of rules knowledge.

I love these pros, they've all seen someone cheat yet nobody reported it, nobody refused to sign a card and none of them had actually done it themselves...…..great.

One of the best examples of professionally sanctioned cheating was Jimmy Walkers comment that he "backstopped" for players he liked.

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Posted 15 January 2019 - 01:04 PM

I've played a round with an Iseeker who insisted on getting a free drop out of a roo print when he was in the bunker.

Despite his ranting and railing, and quite honestly, open bullying, my friends and I stood our ground and did not give in.

I even got footgage of the event if anyone was interested in watching....


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Posted 15 January 2019 - 01:06 PM

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Posted 15 January 2019 - 01:07 PM

This game can wear down a golfer during a bad spell and or when he can't seem to get a break (a favourable bounce or deflection, bad lies etc). There is a temptation during these spells to even it up a bit. Golf can be a cruel game - some players have difficulties handling the perverseness of the game.

I know exactly what you mean, at the end of my round on the weekend Weets was marking my card and he asked if I had a 5 on the last as he was about to write that down. I told him that I had a 6, but the way I was going it would have been very easy to just say 'yep' and move along. 


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Posted 15 January 2019 - 01:17 PM

I've played a round with an Iseeker who insisted on getting a free drop out of a roo print when he was in the bunker.

Despite his ranting and railing, and quite honestly, open bullying, my friends and I stood our ground and did not give in.

I even got footgage of the event if anyone was interested in watching....

 

It's Groove's reaction that is truly priceless.


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Posted 15 January 2019 - 01:29 PM

Latest on backstopping  https://www.golf.com...e-frank-nobilo/

Sort of understand where they're coming from but at what distance does it become "backstopping"? 30m, 50m, 100m? whats the difference?  


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Posted 15 January 2019 - 01:31 PM

SO that is what it is called Sandbagging! When I play quite well one game and almost break 90 , then next game I am struggling to avoid 100+, I thought it was just lack of skill, lack of concentration and poor physical conditioning.


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Posted 15 January 2019 - 01:34 PM

Sort of understand where they're coming from but at what distance does it become "backstopping"? 30m, 50m, 100m? whats the difference?  

When player can easily reach ball to mark it?


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Posted 15 January 2019 - 01:44 PM

When player can easily reach ball to mark it?

But if we're trying to speed up play surely if the next players ready (Prof or am comps) he should be able to go?


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Posted 15 January 2019 - 01:54 PM

VIS and golf Australia elite player has been reported numerous times... nothing happens.
Last one- he played someone else’s ball from a different fairway which was clearly marked, went to the bushes for a wizz. He was followed and the other players ball was found in the spot. He went on to win the event and the scoring average for ivo whitton.
Butttt you can’t make the state team player look bad so let it go.




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