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#1 trustyrusty

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 05:56 PM

Hi There,

 

My putting stroke is an arc. 

 

I have  tried everything to get it straighter... I can literally feel I am taking it outside the line....no change...I have even use blocks of wood and can still get an arc..(first image is mine)

 

I then get friends on my machine and they are straight or very close to...urghhh drives me nuts..(see attachments - I could not find a straighter one but some people were right on the line - back and through)

 

I know there is the arc stroke and straight back and straight through SBST. Each will have merits. 

 

What can I do to get it straight - there must something I am missing. I trying not to open and close....but urghhhhhhhh.

 

I would just like the option to be able to do so I can see if it is better for results - I would assume STSB is better for consistency and accuracy ...

 

Thanks

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 06:11 PM

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 06:14 PM

Rusty .......

 

What you have there my friend is a toe hang blade style putter. These are designed specifically for the toe to turn over through the stroke, and work best with an arc path.

 

Trying to get them to go sbst, is like asking a kid not to like icecream …. it just doesn't work …. without some operator manipulation during the stroke, and that's not good for consistency.

 

If you hold the putter up horizontally, and find its balance point on a finger, while its balanced on your finger … see where the toe of the clubface points. The more it points down towards the ground , the more toe hang is has (and the more arc you should putt with).

 

A mallet style putter on the other hand is more likely to be face balanced (when you do that test again, its face points to the sky). These are more suited to a sbst stroke, so ideally, you want to match the putter to the style of stroke you wish to put on the ball.

 

Just my 2 cents worth …..  ;)


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Posted 07 August 2018 - 07:25 PM

Surely that's at least $2 worth?
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Posted 07 August 2018 - 08:13 PM

Hi I have a face balanced putter - to confuse even more... forgot that part..  I feel more it get it straighter I have to manipulate hands which is wrong and feels wrong.... Those people with straighter arcs where using my putter..

seems I should have a toe-hang putter? cheers


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Posted 07 August 2018 - 08:24 PM

You're self diagnosing your putting stroke and prescribing your own cure based on your diagnosis?
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Posted 07 August 2018 - 09:10 PM

You're self diagnosing your putting stroke and prescribing your own cure based on your diagnosis?

Isn't that what just about everyone does?
Exceptions being the few who seek professional help.
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Posted 07 August 2018 - 09:31 PM

You're self diagnosing your putting stroke and prescribing your own cure based on your diagnosis?

You say that like its a bad thing. LoL.

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 09:53 PM

Hi There,

My putting stroke is an arc.

I have tried everything to get it straighter... I can literally feel I am taking it outside the line....no change...I have even use blocks of wood and can still get an arc..(first image is mine)

I then get friends on my machine and they are straight or very close to...urghhh drives me nuts..(see attachments - I could not find a straighter one but some people were right on the line - back and through)

I know there is the arc stroke and straight back and straight through SBST. Each will have merits.

What can I do to get it straight - there must something I am missing. I trying not to open and close....but urghhhhhhhh.

I would just like the option to be able to do so I can see if it is better for results - I would assume STSB is better for consistency and accuracy ...

Thanks


Why do you want to get rid of the arc?
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Posted 07 August 2018 - 10:03 PM

You say that like its a bad thing. LoL.


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 06:37 AM

Why do you want to get rid of the arc?

 

I thought it might be too much... but not sure..


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 05:54 PM

We it hasn't helped my fggn game that's for sure lol!! Handicap sliding.


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 07:35 PM

I thought it might be too much... but not sure..


I doubt it.

If your not consistent, then you should get someone to check your aim first. Most of the time it's the aim is off when people struggle witht their putting.

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Posted 08 August 2018 - 07:46 PM

While there isn't a true SBST putt …….. because of physiology we will always putt with at least a slight arc (until they make putters with 90 degree shafts).

 

The easiest way to putt SBST I think …….. is to loosen your grip on your putter, and let your hands and arms basically feel dead ……. and then just rock the shoulders up and down to perform the shot.

 

Don't let the shoulders move forwards, outwards, inwards or backwards …….. just up and down.

 

That should keep the clubface on line for the longest period through the hitting zone … without the need for any face manipulation.

 

There's another 2 cents worth ….  ;)


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Posted 08 August 2018 - 08:10 PM

While there isn't a true SBST putt …….. because of physiology we will always putt with at least a slight arc (until they make putters with 90 degree shafts).

The easiest way to putt SBST I think …….. is to loosen your grip on your putter, and let your hands and arms basically feel dead ……. and then just rock the shoulders up and down to perform the shot.

Don't let the shoulders move forwards, outwards, inwards or backwards …….. just up and down.

That should keep the clubface on line for the longest period through the hitting zone … without the need for any face manipulation.

There's another 2 cents worth …. ;)


It's not bad way to putt but it's reliant on the putter face being square with the shoulders.


I prefer to use my hands more to release the putter head. I find if I do this correctly, the arms, shoulders and body follow in sequence.

Each to their own.
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