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#1 trustyrusty

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Posted 05 August 2018 - 11:40 AM

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On Friday arvo I did some putting on practice green. Good , holed a lot. Saturday, no good. I always nervy in fingers, seem to lose the flow, rhythm ... this probably the holy grail..but .... anyone got any tips or processes they use to take it to the course. It’s just split second of timing or something. It’s probably just a thought to think about to take away the negative mental thoughts .. don’t know.. so frustrating ... anyone got any ideas?
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Posted 05 August 2018 - 02:17 PM

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On Friday arvo I did some putting on practice green. Good , holed a lot. Saturday, no good. I always nervy in fingers, seem to lose the flow, rhythm ... this probably the holy grail..but .... anyone got any tips or processes they use to take it to the course. It’s just split second of timing or something. It’s probably just a thought to think about to take away the negative mental thoughts .. don’t know.. so frustrating ... anyone got any ideas?

any noticeable change in grip pressure practice vs playing?

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Posted 05 August 2018 - 02:57 PM

No I don’t think so, just trying replica practice ... probably brain issue 😀

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Posted 05 August 2018 - 07:41 PM

Just aim at he hole and pull the trigger. It’s that easy
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Posted 05 August 2018 - 08:33 PM

Just aim at he hole and pull the trigger. It’s that easy

But the hole keeps moving!  :huh:


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Posted 06 August 2018 - 03:12 AM

Hi

On Friday arvo I did some putting on practice green. Good , holed a lot. Saturday, no good. I always nervy in fingers, seem to lose the flow, rhythm ... this probably the holy grail..but .... anyone got any tips or processes they use to take it to the course. It’s just split second of timing or something. It’s probably just a thought to think about to take away the negative mental thoughts .. don’t know.. so frustrating ... anyone got any ideas?

 

 

why are you frustrated, because you dont make every putt or by the number of putts you make?

Remember if the best players in the world, PGA tour pros only make 50 % from 3m(10ft). and 94 % from 5ft (1.5m) its a fair chance you and I are also going to miss some week in week out.

 

So dont stand there expecting to hole every 5m putt

 

 on the course dont put to much pressure on your putt, by thinking I have to hole this putt to make a par or a 2 point, what happens then is you charge the first putt and most often miss one coming back.

 

only 3 reasons miss a putt.

1 aim is wrong.(face control at impact)(missed the first spot)

2 speed control

3 poor read of break


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Posted 06 August 2018 - 05:41 AM

Frustrated because I putt a thousand times better in practice and see someone each week who makes everything and wonder why I can’t even do even 50% that. I think it is tempo, but yes could 3 things mentioned... thanks

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 06:56 AM

Frustrated because I putt a thousand times better in practice and see someone each week who makes everything and wonder why I can’t even do even 50% that. I think it is tempo, but yes could 3 things mentioned... thanks

Understand. So ifyou can make putts in practice its prob not your stroke mechanics that fail you on the course.

When you practice putting what do you practice. ?do you just putt balls at the hole or do drills.
Do you putt with 1 ball or several.
Putting with one ball only creates the same sense of pressure as on course.

On the course what do you do different to practice putting green..

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 08:05 AM

Thanks

 

I do a combination of both.... drills and one ball, lag drills etc. My holing rate is pretty good in practice... I am sure

 

the technique is fine - not perfect but if the holing rate better on course I would be happier.

 

Watching pga tour some days the pros just cannot make anything and sometimes they do - and to me it is just

 

feel / flow thing...timing tempo...etc 

 

I dont seem to have many days that are 'on' - need a thought process to trigger good thoughts. 

 

I remember Louis Oosthuizen had a red mark on his glove to remind him of a process....and won The Open.

 

It is almost like you have have a thought - like 'what is for dinner?' :) to turn your brain off! 

 

PS re drills

 

I have 5 balls and hole four in a row, holing the 5th is hard...

If I have 4 balls and hole 3 in a row, holing the 4th is hard...

 

It is the tension created by expectation... that is what I need to fix... 


Edited by trustyrusty, 06 August 2018 - 08:13 AM.

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 09:04 PM

why are you frustrated, because you dont make every putt or by the number of putts you make?

Remember if the best players in the world, PGA tour pros only make 50 % from 3m(10ft). and 94 % from 5ft (1.5m) its a fair chance you and I are also going to miss some week in week out.

 

So dont stand there expecting to hole every 5m putt

 

 on the course dont put to much pressure on your putt, by thinking I have to hole this putt to make a par or a 2 point, what happens then is you charge the first putt and most often miss one coming back.

 

only 3 reasons miss a putt.

1 aim is wrong.(face control at impact)(missed the first spot)

2 speed control

3 poor read of break

But someone can aim well, read the break well and get the speed right but still mishit it! I think the frustration for most golfers is just not being able to execute well when they have everything else right. It could just be nerves or it could it be the putter. I think most store bought putters are too long and too upright.


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Posted 07 August 2018 - 05:14 PM

But someone can aim well, read the break well and get the speed right but still mishit it! I think the frustration for most golfers is just not being able to execute well when they have everything else right. It could just be nerves or it could it be the putter. I think most store bought putters are too long and too upright.


Hard to get those 3 parts right and still miss more often than not. Even a mishit that's started online with the right pace will find the hole more frequently than not. I've seen plenty of players aim for a break that's not there, then pull or push it straight into the hole. So the stroke wasn't great but it had enough of the right elements to make the putt ! Great putters are usually great readers of break, they can then either roll it firmer or softer to get the ball to take the break or not. Gentle Ben could putt with a cricket bat if need be and still hole them.
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Posted 07 August 2018 - 06:01 PM

Perhaps the guy on the mower just mowed them from a different direction?  :D


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Posted 06 December 2018 - 02:29 AM

I consciously make sure that I have very light putter grip pressure just before I pull the trigger. Other than that, for me its all mental. I focus on nothing but my very specific target (which is rarely the hole!) - that is all that is in my head.

 

I also don't worry about a practice stroke, I find that if I look at and focus purely on my target then my pace will be pretty close. I find that practice strokes just create tension and confusion and I'm only worried about getting my practice stroke "perfect". 

 

Finally remember what 'Can Break 80' said, statistically you won't make many long range putts outside of say 10ft. Therefore if I start the putt on the intended line then I'm happy with that, whether it goes in or not after that is out of my control.


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Posted 07 December 2018 - 12:42 PM

Hi

On Friday arvo I did some putting on practice green. Good , holed a lot. Saturday, no good. I always nervy in fingers, seem to lose the flow, rhythm ... this probably the holy grail..but .... anyone got any tips or processes they use to take it to the course. It’s just split second of timing or something. It’s probably just a thought to think about to take away the negative mental thoughts .. don’t know.. so frustrating ... anyone got any ideas?


Maybe work on a technique that is repeatable. If the only thing Ur are taking to the course from your practice is tempo and confidence then you're stuffed!!

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Posted 08 December 2018 - 06:35 PM

Very interesting topic. I had a similar issue with short game, my perception was that I am deadly on the short game practice area but somewhat of a duffer on the course.

Here was my thought process, for what it's worth.

Start with a proposition "my short game is far worse on the course than on the practice ground"

That statement might be true, if so why? It might also be a false preception, if so why?

Why might it be true?

There are lots of reaons. The practice area is relatively well known, relatively flat, and I can choose my lie and target.

There is more psychological pressure on the course, leading to more looking up or quitting.

Why might it be a false preception? The pain I feel from a duff on the course is far greater than the pain from a similar duff when practicing.

This is not the full list. My point is that there are very good reasons why performance on the course will be worse than on the practice ground, and there are also good reasons why I will feel that this problem is bigger than it really is.

So my conclusion was that I was worrying about this far too much, making it a bigger and bigger problem. My solution was simply to accept that I was bound to be less good on the course and also pretty likely to be exaggerating how big the problem was.

Which helped me a lot more than trying to treat this as a mysterious major issue.
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