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#61 Weetbix

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 01:36 PM

As a person whose heritage is of the TSI part of ATSI, I read your original post and had no issue with your use of the phrase 'aboriginal people' in the manner it was used.

I agree with much of your post, not withstanding the problematic nature of ascribing cultural norms with too broad a brush-stroke.


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Posted 18 January 2018 - 01:37 PM

Sorry Weeti can't use the acronym wither must be referred to as Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander People at least in reports (really gets the word count up quickly).


That's dealing with the big issues hey! :o

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 03:28 PM

Guess it doesn't matter what day we call Australia Day as the lazy white invaders will still get to have a day off work. Make it a Sunday so we have the Monday off as it falls on the sunday
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Posted 18 January 2018 - 04:14 PM

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 05:24 PM

Sorry if it sounds like I am taking the high ground here. Working for DHHS I do get a different view and have personal experience not someone else's.

But you are looking at the political issue. Like the date for Australia day  , recognizing the original inhabitants of this land ,whilst a great idea, again it will not have any effect on the living standards of those people. AS Weetie said. There have been Millions & Millions of dollars thrown at this issue. Most of it wasted.Maybe over time ( several generations ) attitudes will slowly alter But I am damn sure that there is not a political solution to the lot of many aboriginals.  To be quite honest the biggest issue for aboriginals is alchohol abuse. This also has had bucketfuls of money thrown at it with little if any result.


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Posted 18 January 2018 - 05:35 PM

But you are looking at the political issue. Like the date for Australia day  , recognizing the original inhabitants of this land ,whilst a great idea, again it will not have any effect on the living standards of those people. AS Weetie said. There have been Millions & Millions of dollars thrown at this issue. Most of it wasted.Maybe over time ( several generations ) attitudes will slowly alter But I am damn sure that there is not a political solution to the lot of many aboriginals.  To be quite honest the biggest issue for aboriginals is alchohol abuse. This also has had bucketfuls of money thrown at it with little if any result.


I would disagree. I think diabetes is a bigger problem.
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Posted 18 January 2018 - 07:08 PM

I think you would find that in many cases the diabetes is a result of the alcohol abuse and lack of proper food.

When you see them living in parks and living on cheap plonk you begin to see just how big the problem is.


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Posted 18 January 2018 - 10:21 PM

Suspect I am part of the problem, like SSM, I coudn't give a rats about Australia Day. Change it don't change, I'm indifferent,

 

I have zero English blood and no aboriginal (or whatever I'm supposed to call it), so not sure I have a dog in the fight.

 

I am confident of only one thing, if Di Natale and his cohort of morons are promoting any issue, I would suggest disagreeing is a solid pathway for the country.


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Posted 19 January 2018 - 09:23 AM

Can someone ask an Indigenous Tasmanian what their opinions might be?

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 10:26 AM

Can someone ask an Indigenous Tasmanian what their opinions might be?

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 11:22 AM

Step 1: Australia needs to become a Republic first.

Step 2: change the Aussie flag to Southern Cross and Indigenous flag replaces Union Jack

Step 3: Whatever date the Republic becomes official, that becomes the official Australia Day.

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 11:27 AM

Step 1: Australia needs to become a Republic first.

Step 2: change the Aussie flag to Southern Cross and Indigenous flag replaces Union Jack

Step 3: Whatever date the Republic becomes official, that becomes the official Australia Day.

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I've seen a flag that was the Eureka flag but in the aboriginal flag colours. Looked good.


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Posted 19 January 2018 - 11:32 AM

Step 1: Australia needs to become a Republic first.

Step 2: change the Aussie flag to Southern Cross and Indigenous flag replaces Union Jack

Step 3: Whatever date the Republic becomes official, that becomes the official Australia Day.

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As long as they do this properly and make the date of the new Republic in summer I think it's the best idea. 


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Posted 19 January 2018 - 12:59 PM

As long as they do this properly and make the date of the new Republic in summer I think it's the best idea.


Jan 26 would then be unencumbered, we could use that.
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Posted 19 January 2018 - 02:42 PM

why has it taken  so many years to actually start worrying about what happened to the aboriginals all those years ago

 

When Australia day was declared a national holiday back when ever where was this arguement.

 

Changing us to a republic is not going to change when we was colinised  or wether people see this as an invasion to aboriginals

 

I dont think  the brits came in 1788 and said lets kill everyone  that stands in front of us  , aggrevation starts from both sides  who ever took the first pot shot..

 

changing dates is not fixing the problem if it was then it would be an easy fix...

 

 

Warren Mundine an aborigional leader is pleading for this disgraceful  Arguement on Australia Day

 

These are his words 

 

“It irritates me that every time it comes up, every year, you get the same old people coming out and arguing the same old cases, trying to divide the country when we should be actually trying to work together.”

 

You know he is absolutely right on this matter

 

does it really matter if the date is 26 of janruary when we celebrate the day it all should be inclusive in which i think it is in our lives today.

 

The greens are fuelling this for there own agenda  when many aborigional leaders are not seeking this attention

 

 

by changing the course  we are dividing the nation which includes all forms of life in Australia and do we really want that.

 

 

I would much rather see  us as a nation and start supportting the aborigional community...

 

 

as i said people dont want to lose the holiday they get  but they want this change becuase of 1 party fuelling a fight that  even Aborigional leaders do not want to seek change in date

 

 

if you want a nation of divide i think changing date is whats going to happen

 

but i also think  Australia day can be all inclussive we we all celebrate as one irregardless of what happen 200 odd years back


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