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#16 Old Poppy

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Posted 19 July 2017 - 11:37 PM

The golfer in my avatar (Harry Vardon) played with iron clubs (except speciality irons) of the same length and lie angle. He won practically everything when he was healthy.

My view is that in a conventional set the shorter clubs have some control built into them with a shorter shaft and more upright lie with the ball being almost under the eyes. When the shafts get longer, this control drifts away from the club design and rests more with player skill.

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 01:14 PM

Hello everyone as this is my first post.

 

This is a really interesting concept as I can see many advantages that have been acknowledged in this thread. My question is...is loft and modern club head design suitable for this concept? I've seen Tom Wishon talk about the Sterling irons he designed around this concept. With these irons he focused on the C.O.R of the face in the lower lofted clubs and the use of different materials. I don't know, but it seems to me that for this concept to be executed effectively, thats another step in the direction?

 

All in all, I like the idea of this throughout the bag (one length for irons, shorter for wedges, longer for metals). If I can improve my consistency and hit more shots out of the middle, in my eyes theres a lot to be gained!


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Posted 04 October 2017 - 07:48 PM

Long time between posts for me, however I hope that others may find this useful.

 

I popped into Power Golf Alexandria for the first time in a while, without being prompted by staff, I picked up and tried the Cobra F7 One Length irons, 5 iron, 7 iron and 9 iron.

 

One week later, popped back in, did the same thing and ordered them. They really are that good to hit.

 

I picked up the 5-SW today and had 18 holes on a big Sydney course, they are pretty pure irons (I have come from MP54s and Mack Daddy Wedges - very decent irons) however the Cobra F7s look great, perform well and are VERY WELL PRICED compared to their competition.

 

Try them, I had little expectation, but was very impressed.

 

Cobra has created very good irons here, happy to answer any questions.


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Posted 04 October 2017 - 10:21 PM

Same length shaft in 5 and SW?
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Posted 05 October 2017 - 12:58 PM

Same length shaft in 5 and SW?

 

yes, same length and lie in 5-SW (includ Gap). + 1/2inch and 2 deg Up

 

perfect for half and full swings in the SW, but will take some getting used to with chips and bunkers.

 

My suggestion to anyone is, just try them, see what you think...



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Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:52 PM

Cool

Enjoy! Hope they are the bomb for you

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Posted 10 October 2017 - 12:17 PM

Update on the Cobra F7 ONElength irons for those who are interested. Second round with them on the weekend, and again, they are really consistent in ball flight and distances. I was fit into the standard stiff flex shafts, the flight isn't much different to my Steelfibers, perhaps a little higher, but no ballooning at all.

 

I just recommend trying them at your local shops and see how they feel for you. not having to change your swing from 5 iron to Sand Wedge hasn't felt particularly strange to me at all, in fact, it is one less thing to think about during the swing.


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Posted 09 February 2018 - 02:30 AM

I think that, if 'one length' irons/clubs were superior to the current set-up of individual length clubs, then they would have been universal long before now: The idea being around almost a century!

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Posted 09 February 2018 - 08:31 AM

To be honest I thought they had already gone the way of the Nike Sasquash square head driver and the 1 iron. 

 

But in golf if you have something that works go with it.



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Posted 10 February 2018 - 05:48 PM

To be honest I thought they had already gone the way of the Nike Sasquash square head driver and the 1 iron.

But in golf if you have something that works go with it.


You probably didn't get a good look into my bag the other day.
Driver short 2 inches
5 wood short 2 inches
Hybrid is stock issue
4 hybrid HL stock
5 iron-8 Cobra one length irons
Callaway forged razr x 9 and PW
Pretty normal wedges besides my 64 wedge

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 08:42 AM

You probably didn't get a good look into my bag the other day.
Driver short 2 inches
5 wood short 2 inches
Hybrid is stock issue
4 hybrid HL stock
5 iron-8 Cobra one length irons
Callaway forged razr x 9 and PW
Pretty normal wedges besides my 64 wedge

 

I stand corrected they work well then!!  :rolleyes: 

 

I only saw what looked like a random assortment of clubs.


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Posted 05 January 2019 - 08:37 PM

I just found this thread. I have been thinking about one length irons for a while now. Being pretty new to golf and a 64 year old ex-hockey player, my style is less than elegant. My 3,4,5 irons on my original set were not that reliable for me, probably due to unreliable strike and possibly low swing speed. I could hit them but 50% of the shots were erratic in distance and direction.

 

I ended up using a 22 and 24 degree hybrid to replace the 3,4,5 irons. After almost two years I was getting better with most of my clubs ,except my driver. My iron play was getting better with respect to distance , but still lateral dispersion was a bit erratic. I wanted to try one length irons, but living in rural Victoria finding a set to trial was elusive.

 

I bought Prouix's Cobra F7 set from him and they suit me well. My clubs were 1/2 inch longer. The stiffer shaft has fixed my lateral dispersion issue and I now have a slight draw shape, unless I try for a fade. I tried a stiff shaft in a Cobra F8 driver and that improved my fairway finding too. Now I have two F7 hybrids with adjustable loft ,set at 22 and 19 degrees. The  Cobra F7 3-4 wood is set at 14.5 degrees and it is good off the tee and the ground. Now I am using the one length 5 iron with confidence.

 

I am noticing that better strike is giving me longer shots ,so at this early stage my  club gapping distances are not reliable yet. I also started using a Forte SS3 distance ball which seems to be giving me 5-10 m more on most shots. 

 

I have no problems with the PW and GW on the course. I have decided not to use the one length SW ( 54 degree), instead I have standard Cobra king versatile grind 56 degree. I really like the SW for chipping near the green. 

 

I have a problem with my lob wedge still. I have Cleveland 60 degree with what look like average bounce ( 9-10 degrees maybe) . In winter the bounce is insufficient for the wet sloppy conditions and in summer it is too much for the hard packed bunkers.  My solution is to replace it with two clubs. I was thinking on a 4 degree bounce 60 degree for summer and a 12-14 degree wide soled 65 degree C3i or similar for winter.

 

Anyway the one length irons have improved my confidence and they fit well with my woods & hybrids. I am hoping that my 21 handicap will drop a few points soon.

If  the F8s are better than the F7s, and supposedly the F9 are better yet, then I think the concept would be ideal for players new to golf. Why make it any harder than it need be?


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Posted 11 February 2019 - 07:01 PM

First time poster here.

 

I've just got my hands on the Cobra F-Max One Length clubs, 5 to PW and SW. Haven't hit them yet but hoping to soon. These are branded as super game improvement.

 

With a very high handicap, I've been using the Cobra Fly-Z XL's for a few years now (also game improvement).

 

As I'm pretty confident hitting my 7 iron, I'm hoping the one-length concept can help me improve. Not Sure about the SW but we'll see.


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Posted 11 February 2019 - 07:05 PM

Good luck

The logic makes sense so hopefully it works
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Posted 12 February 2019 - 01:18 PM

Sold more than a few sets of the Cobra one length irons over the last year or so.

 

Whenever Dechambeau has a win, it tends to spark further interest in the clubs …. which isn't a bad thing.

 

What I'm finding is that the longer irons is where the benefits seem to lay, in that its easier to swing a 7 iron length, than a 4 iron length for most.

 

The downside, however is in the short irons and wedges, as that extra length in them means that most suffer a loss of control … due to having their hands further from the clubface than they are used to.

 

We do see a few of these one length "lofted irons and wedges" end up coming back in, to get shortened .... in order for the players to regain control of them.

 

So, long irons yes, a "7 iron" length 4 iron, can certainly help a lot players with a more consistent strike ….. but short irons, and I reckon the jury is still out on the effectiveness of em.

 

Just my thoughts though .. but I reckon they are worth having a hit of them, cause they are good fun, and may help some players in terms of their longer game …..  ;)


Edited by GPJ_Longdriver, 12 February 2019 - 01:19 PM.

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