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#31 Weetbix

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Posted 24 June 2015 - 10:56 PM

explain how you got behind at PAC Harbour, was there anything different on the two days???

My playing partners were a factor as well as my bad play

The two guests were often taking extra shots off the tee, plenty of times they were taking a second shot well back of the other drives and we had to wait back with them, lots of ball searches.

Then we let a group through - so altjpugh we were a long way behind the SEQGG group there was another group in that space.

Was a slow round - only Gravy played it well.

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Posted 24 June 2015 - 11:44 PM

To be honest as long a the weather is pleasant I dont care if it takes 3.5 or 5 hours to play a round .... As long as Im not having to wait to hit constantly or holding the following group up, its ok.

 I agree that one cant point the finger a either a high or low handicap players - in my opinion, once you have the ability to play to your handicap (ie not a rank beginner) you should be able to hold your place in the field   

 

To clarify - this wasnt meant to be a thread about the solution for slow play or a general advice on how to speed up the game. I was after some specific feedback regarding how I play the game and what I can do to improve both my on course awareness and hopefully my scores at the same time.

 

Thank you to those that have provided constructive feedback - I thought I take too long over the ball with the driver in my hands and was already intending on changing that - but lets face it..an extra 20 seconds on the 14 tee shots in a round wont cause a group to loose their place in the field).

  

Hopefully all those that have read the thread have had a quick think about their own game and can pick one thing to change for the better.If not- why not?

Dont be afraid to point out and provide guidance to others that can at times be labeled slow, as long as its in a constructive and helpful manner (and the person isnt a total ******) it should make the game more enjoyable for the both of you, and the rest of us. .   


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But it more than likely looks like a drowning elephant.


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Posted 25 June 2015 - 07:24 AM

yep you are slow mate

not noticed on the T but the green absolutely.

when we played at s/lakes when we found the snake and Kioiom tried to look down the wrong end of my laser i have nearly gone to sleep on the greens.

 

It may be an "A" grade thing??,

I dont think so.

 

Most peeps dont like to be told they are slow & most peeps are to scared of the conflict involved with telling someone they are slow.

 

like you alluded to we all know how to go faster but no one it seems can pull it off.

 

weetie and his damn gripping and regripping (a la sergio) is a classic eg

 

i have had digs for slow play esp on putting too so i asked mattysnaphookerson & Russssssssssssssssss and sev others (whom i respect opionons on) if i was slow.

They gave me their appraisal and so i sped up

again the little legs is a burden.

 

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Posted 25 June 2015 - 08:47 AM

Aha - a second mention!

Sergio and I have both reined our gripping exploits in in recent times you'll be happy to know kiwi. I might retake my grip a couple of times a round as I get to the ball if I grabbed the club wrong but the days of having to take it a few times on each tee are behind me :D

Funny how that one has hung around - from memory there was a couple of months when I was having trouble getting my grip right when I was taking ages at times. I'm still very particular about my grip though I have to admit - but Hogan reckons it is one of the most important elements of a good setup so I'm going to stay particular about it.
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Posted 25 June 2015 - 08:56 AM

I'm still waiting for Kiwi to climb out of the divot....or is he..... Ant Man!!!


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Posted 25 June 2015 - 08:58 AM

Hi DJ, good to see you're trying to improve things. I can't really remember if you were slow or not, too long ago. With regard to shortening your pre shot, it might only save a few seconds, but it looks much better to the group behind. Same thing as someone leaving the green before group has putted out, saves a bit of time but sends a message to group and following groups.

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Posted 25 June 2015 - 10:34 AM

Weetibixerdude is slow as fark
I heard it in the bar
And in the can
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Posted 25 June 2015 - 11:25 AM

Oh, and all you short blokes using stride length (or lack thereof) as an excuse, GROW UP.
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Posted 25 June 2015 - 12:52 PM

I know that if the playing group I'm in ever loses contact with the group in front, it's not because of my slow play ........ as I always hit off last in our group........ :)

 

While I don't mind rushing my pre shot routine in order for us to keep up ........ a dart on the tee box is something to be savoured, like a good red wine, or the ample attributes of Miss Raquel Welch. :)


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Posted 25 June 2015 - 04:15 PM

Weetibixerdude is slow as fark
I heard it in the bar
And in the can
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Posted 25 June 2015 - 04:40 PM

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Posted 25 June 2015 - 04:48 PM

C'mon guys - this is about DJ!

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Posted 25 June 2015 - 04:50 PM

Coin Weeti how often do threads stay on topic?
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Posted 25 June 2015 - 04:58 PM

If your slow putting is it your read? If so, maybe make it when others putt to help speed up.
I have found that slow play can
Also be due to other players not watching your shot. If you're playing as a group it's faster for all group players to know where wach shot went...safes bulk time

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Posted 25 June 2015 - 05:11 PM

Speed of play is like driving a car - everyone thinks they are fine and it's everyone else who is at fault. This is a good thread - examining your own game and admitting some fault is commendable; we can all improve to some degree.

 

The well-hashed theory - and one I put some stock in - is that the average club golfer is trying too hard to emulate the pros. For obvious $$$ reasons, they take an ungodly amount of time to prepare to play a shot, especially around the greens. A combination of monkey see monkey do, and the conditioning by instruction experts on the importance of pre-shot routines and reading greens from 8 bloody angles has blown out playing times. Aiding and abetting this inclination is a general delusion that we are all better players than our scores suggest.

 

Someone in the group should take responsibility for hurrying up a tardy group. I was always taught the lowest handicapper is the unofficial 'captain' of a group so it's their role if no-one else is making noises. Enforce ready golf, send 2 players to the next empty tee whilst the other 2 putt out. Give directions on a lost ball hunt for other players to hit before joining the search. Drop hints when the search is fruitless or nearing a reasonable time of looking. Walk faster between shots and let everyone know that you are falling behind.

 

Anyone who has played in Scotland would have learnt that you can have a perfectly enjoyable round completed within 3.5 hours without running between shots. Players know there how to play without pissfarting around, and if they don't, there will be someone around to promptly let them know.

 

On a personal note, bloody Aimpoint should be banned. Hold 2 fingers up in front of your eye on the green and get an automatic escort off the premises. I occasionally play with a guy off 31 who I have not once seen reach 30 points. Every single putt, up go the fingers. Sleep inducing. Doesn't even begin until it's his turn to putt. That makes me part of the problem as he is such a decent bloke that I can't bring myself to tell him anything other than a general "we need to speed up a bit on the greens".

 

Other personal dislikes - marking and resting from within 4-5 feet, long pre-shot routines that only start when it's their turn to hit, any more than 1 practice swing, marking cards at the greens, leaving buggies at the front of the greens, not watching your ball when it's headed into trouble (I'm regularly guilty of this one), not calling a group through when they're up your arse and you are falling behind, and not knowing the rules r.e. hazards, lost balls, unplayables, etc. Not that it wastes much time but why do we pass the pin around like it's the holy grail? - put the bloody thing down somewhere out of the way and then stick it back in at the end.

 

In drafting this rant I can now answer the question posed by the OP - I contribute to slow play by not watching my errant drives as closely as I should, not knowing the rules as well as I should, and being too polite to tell a slow Aimpointer where he can shove his 2 fingers.


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