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#1 Liberton

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 11:27 AM

So last night at the 2015 VGA Pennant meeting it was announced that up to 2 professionals can be fielded in a penannt team (seniors / colts / ladies) as long as they are paid up financial members of the club they are representing, not getting free memberships as part of their contracts.

 

I only see this as benifiting the bigger clubs, my club pro isnt a member of our club so couldnt play at the moment.


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 11:43 AM

That's pretty ****.

I know it would never happen but imagine Heritage team, Ryan Lynch and Daniel Popovich are both members, that's a formidable team.
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Posted 20 November 2014 - 12:02 PM

So last night at the 2015 VGA Pennant meeting it was announced that up to 2 professionals can be fielded in a penannt team (seniors / colts / ladies) as long as they are paid up financial members of the club they are representing, not getting free memberships as part of their contracts.

 

I only see this as benifiting the bigger clubs, my club pro isnt a member of our club so couldnt play at the moment.

 

You can drive a truck through that, bump their retainer and have them pay ...



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Posted 20 November 2014 - 12:11 PM

You can drive a truck through that, bump their retainer and have them pay ...

And that was brought up, or professionals taking up a cheap social membership and playing. 



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Posted 20 November 2014 - 02:05 PM

I haven't heard that this change has been officially adopted but I fail to see any merit in this decision.

Pennant golf has been run sucessfully for years on an amateur format and Victoria arguably boasts to have the best set up in the country. Why change !

With the possible exception of D1, and to lesser extent D2, what benefit will this achieve in promoting the game of golf. Top Amateurs may benefit from the experience of playing a Professional but I seriously doubt it.

Some clubs will have a Professional qualified to play and others will not. Is that a fair and even playing field ?

The only exception that could be considered would be for Trainee Professionals with an age limit of 21 to play. This would only be geared for Senior Pennant and not for the Colts. This would give a Trainee great experience in mastering the Match Play format.

Other than that I cannot see any reason to introduce Professionals into GV Pennant.
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Posted 20 November 2014 - 02:14 PM

It's supposed to be golf for amateurs.  If the pros want to play, they can play in all the pro-ams.


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 02:14 PM

And that was brought up, or professionals taking up a cheap social membership and playing.


You need to be a full 7 day member to be eligible.

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 02:17 PM

Some clubs will have a Professional qualified to play and others will not. Is that a fair and even playing field ?.


What about when the amateur off +4 plays the pro off +2?

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 02:58 PM

How much will the Pro's get paid when they win a match?



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Posted 20 November 2014 - 06:11 PM

its total bollocks, which clubs are leading the charge for this?


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 06:15 PM

They might actually get some sort of following now.

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 07:02 PM

Very strange decision, if pros want to play pennant regain your amateur status.

Does this also mean the better Ams can play pro ams and accept money if they finish high enough?

What about the poor mugs who flog their guts out week in week out at the club only to miss a game because a pro is available to  play one week in four.

Mike Clayton wrote an article about this years ago in golf vic 


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Posted 20 November 2014 - 08:17 PM

Unless I read it incorrectly, Clayts made a tweet today suggesting he was in favour of the decision,


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 07:20 AM

This is in, its not up for discussion with competing clubs. The VGA board has already signed off on it.

 

Pennant condition 3.2 (ii) is now: Each club competing in GV Pennant competition is restricted to fielding a maximum of two players in each of its Mens, Womens and Colts teams who are defined as being either from Interstate or Overseas or are Professional Golfers.

* An interstate players is one that has represented, or has been selected to represent another state in the current or prior year at the Mens, Womens Boys or Girls Australian Interstate Teams Matches.

* An international player is a non-permanant resident of Australia who hold a R&A World ranking of less than 1,000 as at 1January of the year of the competition.



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Posted 21 November 2014 - 07:22 AM

You need to be a full 7 day member to be eligible.

Depends on your club, as some allow restricted and country memebers - as the VGA said on Wednesday, is up to the clubs to be honest about the players that play.






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