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#16 jeanmc

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Posted 25 November 2003 - 07:57 PM

great pics... biggrin.gif
it looks the type of course where I'll prob enjoy the walk, but know for sure my score won't be as impressive as the views...

doesn't Tom like trees??? :wink:
has he done any work on tree-lined courses or is he the linksy type of guy?



#17 golfer69

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Posted 25 November 2003 - 07:57 PM

I had to get in first JJJ. I knew if I hadn't typed it, you would have.

If Doakey does his own PR and marketing, he is a genius. Lets see, his last 3 sites have been Bandon, Kidnappers and St Andrews beach. Some pretty schmick land to work with there. Just once, i'd like to see him work on a shitbox swamp with acid sulphate soil problems, an ever encroaching residential line, and a stack of NSW council conditions.

Am I sounding jealous yet ? :wink:



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Posted 25 November 2003 - 08:07 PM

Pretty hard not to like that! 8O



#19 henry

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Posted 25 November 2003 - 08:07 PM

golfer69,
Doak's most recent courses was at Texas Tech University, built on a salt plain which was DEAD FLAT.



#20 golfer69

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Posted 25 November 2003 - 08:46 PM

henry

Post some pics of it please.



#21 henry

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Posted 25 November 2003 - 09:00 PM

Here is the finished product - I'm not going to spend hours
looking for a photo of the original site:

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#22 golfer69

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Posted 25 November 2003 - 09:46 PM

henry

check in your c:/my documents/marketing material/doak_clayton/existing site photography... directory.:mrgreen:



#23 John J Jones

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Posted 25 November 2003 - 09:47 PM

G69,

Nice Hulk impersonation, it's hard to get that deep green thing going :-)

Henry is correct. The Rawls Course at Texas Tech was built on a dead flat paddock. Most of the reviews have been extremely positive except for Golf Digest in the US (from memory) where the reviewer seemed to want to compare the course with things Fazio had done and point out Fazio had done it first. Very weird review that was more having a go at Doak for past criticism of Fazio than talking about the course.

JJ



#24 golfer69

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Posted 25 November 2003 - 09:51 PM

JJJ, It would be very strange if some of these course raters had ulterior motives.



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Posted 25 November 2003 - 10:41 PM

Would anyone be so kind as to tell me exactly where the St Andrews location is.



#26 henry

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Posted 25 November 2003 - 10:51 PM

DL,
It's between The National and Moonah Links.



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Posted 25 November 2003 - 11:20 PM

thankyou Henry.



#28 _Andrew_

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Posted 26 November 2003 - 12:41 AM

Apart from Texas Tech. he has designed many difficult sites.

Riverfront - Swamp with housing development & overhead power lines.
Lost Dunes - Abandon sand quarry that was a totally flat site with a highway cutting the site into two awkward pieces.
Apache Stronghold - Arizona desert.
Stonewall - Extremely hilly, clay based site.

He's done some brilliant work without moving too much soil. Designers like Doak & Coore/Crenshaw are the way forward for golf course design.



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Posted 06 December 2003 - 08:28 AM

Mau,
Tom Doak, the architect involved in St Andrews Beach (along with Mike Clayton) just does not build bad courses.  At the risk of threadjacking, here are a couple of photos from a course he has designed in NZ which is just  about to open.  I reckon even you would appreciate these! :wink: More at www.capekidnappers.com


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That is absolutely spectacular. Tom is actually in Australia at the moment checking in his three projects (barnbougle, st andrews and kidnappers)



#30 Jim

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Posted 06 December 2003 - 08:46 AM

Spooky
Have you replaced Henry as Clayts and Dooky's Australian internet PR rep? laugh.gif

How did Henry take his replacement? :cry:






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