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#16 Hawkers2015

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Posted 08 April 2010 - 11:39 PM

I understand that The property is probably going to be sold. The members only own playing rights not the business. So their members have probably done the money they paid for the shares cold.

#17 Takeitasread

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Posted 09 April 2010 - 12:33 AM

Still on the bay upwards $20 K

Tell him he’s dreaming

They may as well put memberships on ebay at $20 million if they like, because they won't sell. $20, however, might get a taker.

#18 Hawkers2015

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Posted 09 April 2010 - 01:19 AM

Still on the bay upwards $20 K

Tell him he’s dreaming

They may as well put memberships on ebay at $20 million if they like, because they won’t sell. $20, however, might get a taker.

Nah by the time you pay the transfer fee as well it will be too much to risk

#19 HotPies

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Posted 09 April 2010 - 01:25 AM

If you have a hunt around on Ebay, you can find Sandhurst membership for under $100. Remember they paid around $17,500 for that share and happy to off load it fot that !!!

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Posted 09 April 2010 - 02:34 AM

Any one want to get out of their membership desperately in THeritage G&CC or a hotel room, or house, let me know. I'm interested.

#21 Takeitasread

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Posted 09 April 2010 - 02:59 AM

Any one want to get out of their membership desperately in THeritage G&CC or a hotel room, or house, let me know.
I’m interested.

ellimb

You are clearly in charge of the Marketing, PR and general spin for HGCC. Hopefully next week turns out well for you all out there.

#22 ellimb

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Posted 09 April 2010 - 03:32 AM

ellimb – how are matters progressing at your Club?

What are memberships selling for today? annual subs., catering levies, etc.

Memberships are of course not selling now due to the 'unknown'. The subs are the same $3700 p.a. no bar levies. No need to, as lots of 19th hole players there. No, not Tiger's 19th type. The subs are still rolling in to maintain the courses and provide services. If you are free, drive there and stop to have a look. It is not a stuck up club and probably be address G'day ! Best conditions at this time of the year (end of summer) in St. Johns for the past 4 years. The Henley is not as good and due mainly to the poorer conditions of the rough and bunkers. There is a fair share of corporate days as there are two courses but not on Sat. or Wed. (still pulling in money) I wish I'm in charge of marketing but if someone just want to 'get out' of their property there, I may be able to help. Cheers and enjoy The Masters and The Pacific. Have a Hoegaarden

#23 Casualgolfer

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 11:45 PM

Any updates on how matters are progressing?

#24 Takeitasread

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 05:42 PM

Any one want to get out of their membership desperately in THeritage G&CC or a hotel room, or house, let me know.
I’m interested.

ellimb

Yep, two of my mates want to get out deperately. They paid $30K each for their memberships but would be delighted if you cough up $25K

#25 ellimb

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 05:59 AM

For $25K I'm sure they will be extreme delighted.

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Posted 02 July 2010 - 04:29 AM

To secure the members right of HGCC, members are forming a trust to buy it. Takeitasread, your mates may be up for another $5K to 10K depending how much the receiver will sell. As I'm a member there now, I do not need another but will look at Life membership. Cheers

#27 Hypergolf

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Posted 04 February 2019 - 04:01 PM

Here is my update on Heritage Golf. I played there yesterday and due to the heat we had to cart it. Played the St. John's course. Some general positives and negatives before I go into further details.

 

Positives

  • Some memorable holes and fantastic layout. Definitely more interesting compared to Eastern in terms of design. I really liked hole 9, index 1, par 5 where the whole of left side was water. Definitely reachable in 2 if you are long driver and have nerve of steel to attack the pin with 3 or 5 wood into a small landing area which are guarded by bunkers. Anther memorable hole was hole #12. Quite intimidating yet beautiful scene at the same time off the tee. Downhill tee shot, par 5 but miss right and you will be in the water.
  • Cart is only $25 compared to $40 at Eastern. However, I think I would definitely rent the cart more often at Heritage as it can get quite hilly.
  • Sports shop is beginning to stock up on latest equipments and apparels, which is a good sign.
  • Ownership has been transferred from the ex-wife to the ex-husband, which means it will be overseen by someone who can run a golf course. Heritage Golf also hired operations director from Eastern Golf to revamp the course.
  • Definitely less flies compared to Eastern.

Negatives

  • Signage to the club house should be more clearly labelled. It was quite a maze to reach the club house.
  • Toilet stinks of urine... Towels everywhere... Should get hygene factor under control in the locker rooms.
  • Driving range is located far away from the club house... Not a major issue but not very convenient for access. Also need to clean the driving range area as there were empty sandwich boxes rolling around the area. 
  • Some of the greens need lots of work. Pitch marks everywhere. Some greens were good but some were not. Need to be more consistent.
  • They should replace all sand bunker rakes. They don't work.
  • I would not pay $375 monthly membership fee to play at this course. Heritage Golf should have a reality check and bring down their fees to low $200-ish in order to attract back members while getting the course in good condition once again. There are currently 350 members at Heritage so first target should be to increase membership number to get some life into the course. The whole place looked very empty and dead.
  • They did a good job in trimming the thick rough which used to be a few meters tall, but they should get rid of the rough that have been cut instead of leaving them on the course...
  • They should have watered the green in the morning. Active water spingklers at the green prevented us from putting until they rotated away from our direction which was quite annoying.

Overall, I would rate this course around 6.5 out of 10 at the current state. For comparison purposes I would rate Eastern Golf around 8 out of 10. I would definitely not switch over from Eastern to Heritage at the current stage but I definitely would play this course again in the future due to their interesting layout. However, if things were to improve and they were to bring down their membership fee to a realistic figure, I could consider moving over to this course. 



#28 rapidcat

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Posted 12 November 2019 - 03:21 PM

Any more news on how The Heritage is progressing under the new (ex-old) owner?



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Posted 19 November 2019 - 01:02 PM

I played The Henley on 9th November. I was told the course was in the best condition it had been for awhile as the 2nd round of the Club Championships were being played that day. I was also told that the ex-husband was starting to re-invest in course maintenance with the purchase of several machinery items to enable quicker turnaround times in maintenance & repair.

 

The Henley is an attractive and challenging layout, with some blind tee shots and green approaches. Fairways were generally in good condition albeit a little patchy with skinny lies in places due to insufficient watering. A lot of unrepaired divots in many of the landing spots. Greens were still recovering from recent coring (6 weeks ago?), were a bit bumpy and also patchy/rough in places - these areas were marked GUR. Pitch marks don't seem to be repaired. Bunkers were not well maintained, some were out of play, and those in play were not consistently raked by members who had landed in them earlier. The last 3 holes are the signature holes and were in the best condition of them all, without a blemish to be seen. 

 

You can kiss your ball goodbye if you are unlucky enough to land in the rough, although fairways are generous, with a second cut that adds another degree of difficulty in shot making.

 

Overall verdict - I liked the layout very much, it probably needs another year to recover from the prior neglect to bring it up to value for the money being asked....


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#30 FrontBunker

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Posted 07 January 2020 - 09:51 AM

I played the St Johns course just before Xmas. Whilst the layout remains great the conditioning of course and the clubhouse are miles off what you’d want for a club of that (former???) ilk. It’s the 4th time I’ve played at Heritage and easily the sorriest state i've seen things

 

Some of the greens were so far from what they could or should be, and even if they got the cash investment they need (which I’m tipping they won’t), I think it’d take 12 months or more to get them back to where they need to be. Most of the fairways on the St Johns appear to have been mowed too short and were feeling the effects of the heat from the days prior. I don’t know if this was intentional (I'm no expect on fairway maintenance practices) or simply further evidence of the level of “care” being displayed by a grounds crew that I’m lead to believe continue to be paid late and sometimes not in full. FWIW, I don’t ‘blame’ the ground crew. I think they’re doing what they can with a shoestring budget that results in less experienced supers and staff and low levels engagement driven by Club management.

 

The club house is looking pretty weathered- downlights hanging out of their sockets on the patio overlooking 18 green, the wood panelling/shingles on the top level need to be replaced.

 

The proshop was looking pretty sparse and was selling Woolworths brand water (tipping their commercial arrangements with Coca-Cola are not going well, as the fridge was looking pretty empty). I'm not a water snob, I BYO from the tap, but it just caught my eye

 

Some other things I noticed that, in isolation you wouldn’t blink at- the little plastic ball the some clubs put midway up their pins had broken on one of the holes and was sitting on top of the cup, even the council run courses would take the 2 seconds of discretionary effort to rectify that. On multiple holes, the distance markers on sprinkler heads (when their were some) were all over the place, out of numerical sequence and not accurate. Flooding on/near some of the cart paths from broken irrigation pipes. The esky in the cart was jammed full of rubbish (we tee’d off at 730am so hadn’t been checked overnight). The whole place just screams of being uncared for. I overheard a member in the bar telling my “host” that he’d received an e-mail asking if they’d like to “adopt a green” to help keep it watered as if its some sort of volunteer managed country public course

 

The whole place has the feel of someone’s personal playground that likes the prestige of owning a Country Club (koi in some of the lakes), but has minimal interest in maintaining it.

 

Anyway, the club has two terrific courses that I really hope can be returned to their former glory and I sincerely hope the members that are brave enough to stick around get some value for money and can fully maximise their enjoyment






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