Topic: Rules of Golf / T's

IMO it’s legal.

Topic: Rules of Golf / Was Garcia hard done by in 2001?

Has it been shown anywhere else ;-)

Topic: Rules of Golf / Was Garcia hard done by in 2001?

The TIO LR changed in Jan 2008.

But the change didn’t make a difference to the Garcia situation (I’m assuming this is in reference to the event in Australia). Garcia didn’t take relief (he dropped within the ‘first club-length’ i.e. the sign still intervened on a direct line to the hole).

The ensuing argument between John Paramor and Garcia and Greg Norman (advocating for Sergio) is a classic.

Can this classic be found anywhere?

Topic: Rules of Golf / Test question, practising on course before stroke round.....

Thanks Trysil, forgot to read the whole thing :-)
In this case the last sentence fortunately supports my Ruling of DQ in the original case.

Topic: Rules of Golf / Test question, practising on course before stroke round.....

Of course.

In Decision 7-1b/1 a player makes a stroke on the competition course before the round.
The stroke is made from a forward tee (I read that as not the tee, he’s going to play from) into an OB area – this means he plays in a “wrong” direction out of the course.

Still it’s DQ.

The player is allowed to chip or putt near the first teeing ground before the round – that’s it.

Topic: Rules of Golf / Test question, practising on course before stroke round.....

You are definitely hitting shots on the course.

When you deliberately hit full strokes down the fairway from a place beside the teeing ground, you are just technically trying to sneak around the Rules.

There’s no grey side to this – it’s even in the Rule said that chipping and putting near the teeing ground is permitted.

Topic: Rules of Golf / Test question, practising on course before stroke round.....

Always remember this rule. Got the s@@@s one day on the third green. walked off dropped the ball on the ground & belted it into the lake with a three iron. needless to say was seen by a member of the match committee . Arrived at the clubhouse after a terrible round to find I was to be penalized another 2 shots for practicing on the course. You certainly learn well that way!

If they considered it practicing you should have been disqualified, not penalised.

Practicing during a round is 2 strokes/loss of hole, not DQ.

Topic: Rules of Golf / Tee Markers

That’s allowed.

From Rule 11-1, teeing:
...For the purposes of this Rule, the surface of the ground includes an irregularity of surface (whether or not created by the player)...

Laura Davies has tee’d her ball like this for years.

Topic: Rules of Golf / I am Accredited!

It happens.
Everybody makes mistakes – do you remember the question?

And congrats!

Topic: Rules of Golf / Test question, practising on course before stroke round.....

That would be considered practice, and you would be disqualified for breach of Rule 7-1

Topic: Rules of Golf / Practice putt during round?

On the first 9 holes, in an 18 hole comp at a 9 hole course?

“Golf and sex are about the only things you can enjoy without being good at.”
Jimmy Demaret

yes

Topic: Rules of Golf / Does the player who marked your ball have to replace it?

The player can always replace his own ball.
Rule 20-3

Topic: Rules of Golf / Casual water in bunker is it a drop or a place?

You must drop the ball.
Good info on this in Rule 25-1b (ii)

Topic: Rules of Golf / Practice putt during round?

All Tours I know of prohibit this to speed up play, but if nothing is said it’s allowed.

Topic: Rules of Golf / If it is preferred lie on the fairways, can you clean ball?

You may clean it – it’s normally one of the reasons for making the Local Rule on preferred lies, muddy or poor conditions.

Topic: Rules of Golf / Swing Ring

14-3/10 Use of Training or Swing Aid During Round

Q. During a round, may a player make a stroke or a practice swing using a club with a weighted headcover or “donut” on it, or use any other device designed as a training or swing aid?

A. No. The player would be using an artificial device to assist him in his play in breach of Rule 14-3, but see also Decision 4-4a/7 for use of a weighted training club.

(And breach of Rule 14-3 is DQ)

Topic: Rules of Golf / Plugged ball lip of buker - Oz Masters

The Local Rule on embedded ball through the green is always in effect in this tournament, but according to a poster on another forum who saw the incident on TV, there was no grass, no turf – just bunker.

It does sound like a wrong Ruling.

Topic: Rules of Golf / Plugged ball lip of buker - Oz Masters

No, you don’t need me, you really, really need a close-up TV-clip of the incident, because it does sound like a wrong Ruling.
As far as I know, there was no stacked turf or anything like that, it was just ground in the bunker.

If the ball is embedded in the bunker, there’s no free relief – sand or dirt.

Only footage can give an answer.

Topic: Rules of Golf / incorrect local rule

Nobody can answer this properly, it’s a kind of “hot potato” subject.

As I understand it, the player must abide by the Local Rules as they are.

All the player can do is to play by them, and afterwards try to make the Committee “see the light”, because telling the golfing authorities is not likely to do much good, most clubs all over the world like to make the Local Rules as the see fit, and there’s no sanctions really for clubs making illegal Local Rules.

I have been lucky from time to time that a club has kept my Local Rules for an official tournament as their new Local Rules for the course.

Topic: Rules of Golf / Immovable Obstruction inside Water Hazard

Thanks, thought so.

This happened the other day. Player’s ball was outside hazard, but a normal swing would have made contact with the bridge which was entirely inside the hazard.

Cheers, Peter.

In this case the player will get relief without penalty for the bridge.

Topic: Rules of Golf / ball lost in bunker

That’s interesting, I would have gone with Muntz’s call.

If that’s the case wouldn’t you be deemed to have grounded the club in a hazard?

“Golf and sex are about the only things you can enjoy without being good at.”
Jimmy Demaret

Not during a search in a hazard. You may use everything available – rake, hands, club, shovel.

Topic: Rules of Golf / How would YOU play it ?

I personnally would give relief from the hole made by the distance marker if I was asked in a tournament.

Topic: Rules of Golf / ball lost in bunker

Your ball is simply lost/go back and play another under Rule 27-1 if it’s not found after 5 minutes search in the bunker. There’s no special Rule on ball lost in bunker as there is on ball lost in a water hazard, in an abnormal ground condition or in an obstruction.

Topic: Rules of Golf / How would YOU play it ?

If a bush is used as a distance marker, the player will only get free relief as long as it’s young and newly planted.
When the bush is “settled in” no free relief.

If a club wants the players to get free relief from distance markers, they must use ordinary obstructions like stakes, and declare the immovable.

Topic: Rules of Golf / IDENTIFYING BALL IB BUNKER

You recreate the lie yes, but you are allowed to have a part of the ball visible.