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Aren’t all putts straight?

Yes, if your technique and touch is good. Opps…that’s the idea of honing these skills with the ’”laws of accuracy”..lol Spike I did a bit of research and Sasha recomends finding an easy green to start with, don’t make it too hard first up, and change angles when you increase distance.

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Playing as much as you can away from your home course will benefit your game down the track.

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Hi Toolish I have been following this thread with much interest and wish you well in the journey to scratch.

I have a question for you; as your game is improving are you noticing that your scores at other courses you play are improving as much as they are at your home course? I always find that when my handicap drops a couple of shots I need to “test” it away from my home track to be sure that the improvement is validated to some degree by knowing that the improvement is not just a home ground thing.

Interested in your thoughts.

FK

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1. Laws of Accuracy. For those that don’t know what this is you start at 10cm from the hole and hole 100 putts. Next session you hole 5 from 10cm then 100 from 20cm. Then 5 from 10cm, 5 from 20cm and 100 from 30cm. I have been doing this for about 3 weeks and 2 nights ago holes 100 putts from 80cm. I think this fits with your theories bio?

Toolish-

When using the Laws of Accuracy, do you sink a total of 100 putts from the distance you are working on, or 100 in a row? In other words, if you miss, do you start over trying to hit 100 in a row without moving on to the next 10 cm segment until you have actually hit 100 in a row at the prior distance?

I’m a little curious as to what type of putts do you use for the law of accuracy? Are they flat, uphill, downhill or left or right breakers?

I’m not confident with fast downhill putts and my best results are obtained htting off the toe. I’m far more confindent with a right to left break than a left to right break, however, I could hit short uphill putts in all day if I needed too.

Should you practise your strengh for confidence or weakness for reality?

Topic: Toolish - Journey to scratch (I hope!)

1. Laws of Accuracy. For those that don’t know what this is you start at 10cm from the hole and hole 100 putts. Next session you hole 5 from 10cm then 100 from 20cm. Then 5 from 10cm, 5 from 20cm and 100 from 30cm. I have been doing this for about 3 weeks and 2 nights ago holes 100 putts from 80cm. I think this fits with your theories bio?

Toolish-

When using the Laws of Accuracy, do you sink a total of 100 putts from the distance you are working on, or 100 in a row? In other words, if you miss, do you start over trying to hit 100 in a row without moving on to the next 10 cm segment until you have actually hit 100 in a row at the prior distance?

100 in a row. At the moment have made 100 in a row from 1m, only got to about 60 from 1.1m before missing and I ran out of daylight to try again.

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Good Toolish, hand in there over time will pay divitends,
Try this routine, place ball down walk behind pick visualise line, then stand beside the ball, look at the hole practice stroking, don’t think stroke, work on visualising and feeling the putt,and feel for distance, adress the ball and look at hole, still feeling and visualising the putt, look down at putter square up face to your line,
look at the whole once more,visualise and feel the shot, look back at the ball then stroke straight away,just feeling the putt and target in mind.
The reason for this routine is you have still have the feeling of the putt and target still in mind.
I know this sounds stupid, but even know your routine is simular the time you do your routine and walk up and adress the ball, you have lost your feel for the shot, when you adress the ball the last thought is adress and line. rather feeling and target. Only takes a few seconds to loose this.
watch tigers and adam scott’s routine very simular to the one I mentioned, This is a secret to their routine and why they are great putters

You may have seen this before! Tiger briefly goes through and explains hit putting routine. Worth a look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iN70VX2qvg&feature=related

Topic: Toolish - Journey to scratch (I hope!)

1. Laws of Accuracy. For those that don’t know what this is you start at 10cm from the hole and hole 100 putts. Next session you hole 5 from 10cm then 100 from 20cm. Then 5 from 10cm, 5 from 20cm and 100 from 30cm. I have been doing this for about 3 weeks and 2 nights ago holes 100 putts from 80cm. I think this fits with your theories bio?

Toolish-

When using the Laws of Accuracy, do you sink a total of 100 putts from the distance you are working on, or 100 in a row? In other words, if you miss, do you start over trying to hit 100 in a row without moving on to the next 10 cm segment until you have actually hit 100 in a row at the prior distance?

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Toolish,
keep up great work, if you lack time to practice, 100metre shots, 75,50,25 shots. master these distances. when you play start working towards positioning the ball to these distances particularly on par fives and short par 4’s. On short par 4 use an iron off the tee to get yourself in position.

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If you pivot too fast with hands in sync before you arrive at the ball the face will be closed too. Might just be you are sneaking towards down and forward rather than down and out more than usual.

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Confused…how does a fast pivot cause the lefts? Would have thought the opposite if anything an the pivot stopping lets the hands roll over more easily before the ball?

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Is that pivot moving a bit fast

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Still not getting out to practice enough, but can only do what I can do….

Had a 76 on Sunday, was 3 over through 5 then parred 12 of the remaining 13 holes. Putting was a lot better, only had 28 putts for hte round, which sure took some pressure off the ball striking.

Still gotta work more on the putting and the wedges though, make sure hte putting was not a once off and get the wedges dialled in for distance more so I can get more birdie chances.

Main issue was a few pulled wedge shots, both full and partial. I noticed I do it in practice too…not sure why though. Only seems to be shorter clubs but they go too far left for my liking, SW on average would head 15ish feet left at a guess which really isn’t good enough. NEVER miss em right though.

When I get time I will get out and work up the swing range getting them to go straighter…think it is a matter of swinging more right with a more forward hand position.

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toolish,
Congradulations on your eagle. nice shot,
sounds like everything is slowly piecing together, keep up the great work. Go for gold, i hope i look on here soon and see you have shot 67

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ive been working on mine for a very long time now, i use three clubs pw, 54, 58, and have 5 standard distance’s with each,(the swings i use are full, 3/4 1/2 club pararell and 1/4) all i have to think about now is the flight i want eg: low high spiny

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Sure makes it a lot easier to put a confident swing on it…I still need to work harder at it with partial swings and stuff, but even knowing the true full distances helps a lot!

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hey toolish, im in the same boat as you, ive spend the last three weeks re-doing all my wedge distances, every thing from 110 in, and doesnt it feel good when your standing 85 out and you know the extact swing to put on your wedge.

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Well…putting may be coming around a little…had 29 putts on Saturday with no 3 putts. Best putting round I have had in a fair while.

Also, having a better idea how far my wedges go made me a lot more confident over those shots…100m in is surely the way to go.

Threw in a couple of soft bogeys at the end of the round for a 75.

Highlight was a 240m 3 wood that I drew around a corner to 7 feet to make eagle!

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Toolish,
I use to work pitch and punch shots working hard on educated hands and club head control with a bit of pivot work.for the mechanically side this is all i worked on nothing else,I focus hard on mastering my distances, high shots, low shots,draws, fades, even out of a bunker i practiced hundred down.When I mastered my wedges, I went right through my bag, mastered half shots with all my irons. give me an 8 iron 100 metres down could still knock it close. And worked hard on putting from 1 inch to no more than four foot at inch intervals, on the one handed method.Same as chipping did the same from 1 inch to 10 feet no further.
If you practice from three feet putting or chipping. then you have a thirty foot shot. if you looked at the hole and feel the shot, your brain works out and calculates how hard to hit the shot if you allow your brain to do it’s job. Takes some practiced but works.

Five years ago I was in an horrific accident, ended my playing career, spent three years learning to walk again and getting fit.
In march last year made a come back, shot 108 first round back I was livered,went back to my training i mentioned above and by october went to Sydney carded two rounds of 74 in sydney at new brighton off the tiger tees.In harsh conditions and won. My putter let me down. I was still trying to find my putting form. Blow alot of opportunities those days. I teach alot and don’t get out much now but I can still post par and under. My back isn’t is good enough shape to train and play fulltime anymore, For me it’s a blessing just to be able to go play again.
Toolish I don’t understand if everyone followed dart’s advice, dedicated themselves gave themselves six months they never know themselves as a golfer.All you need to do is work on pitch ad punch shots

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Nice story, thanks for sharing….did you practice just by hitting shots, or were there specific drills/techniques that you learnt?

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Toolish,
Awesome,your finding what works for you great stuff.
Tiger woods can’t remeber which magazine it was, Australian golf diggest. one of the latest issues has a tip on putting, He talks about sustaining his right hand bent whilst putting and focus on his right hand. But this is what works for tiger.
I found by giving my students the one handed drill they work out themselves what works for them, they putt better favouring the left hand or right or even prefer to work them together. Doesn’t worry me as long as they learn to putt that ball in hole. I’m happy.

Toolish when I was a junior, my coach came up oneday and said what are you doing, said hitting seven irons, he said what for, he grab my seven iron threw the seven up into the trees, said go play nine with out it, went out, came back he said how many times did you need it. only needed once. He took my wedges from me said go play. didn’t take long to realise. He then made me practice from 100 down in ten metre intervals down to 10metres as soon as I mastered this, I worked on from 100 metres down at 5 metre intervals. In six months dropped from 12 to 5, in twelve months ready to turn pro.
If I ever got into trouble off the tee I never cared as long as I could see the 100 metre peg, I knew I had a chance of knocking the ball to six feet.
And tiger can knock it to six foot less at 2 metre intervals from 100 down .

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Have been off the course for about a week and a half due to a few other things going on.

Went back last night and hit some wedges. After reading Rotella’s stuff and his constant focus on wedge play tying into the mental game it all made a bit of sense. So last night I went and mapped out my full wedge distances as thoroughly as I could.

The result….they all flew shorter than I normally allow. e.g PW I normally think of as a 110m club, is actually more like 105.

Hit a few longer shots and they were pretty good, but need to get a net set-up again.

Focus while at the course is 100% on 110m in, that is where I drop too many shots. The long game will take care of itself for a while, especially with a net there.

And bio…have been doing a bit of single handed putting on the carpet…seems for me the secret is in the right wrist…

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Thanks guru

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biO: have a read of some of Careys work in our Golf School mental area and Careys bio and links are all in there.

Clearkey Golf is his home page and there is a heap in our forum if you go search for Clear Keys

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Spike,
Whats the name of the site would be interested in reading up on cary’s work.
This is one area which fascinates me, is working out how your student thinks and operates so you can communicate with them and get them to perform a motion you ask them to do.
The mental side of golf is another world to explore.
Maybe oneday we’ll be able to put sensors on our heads, which is hooked up to a computer and our thoughts will flash up on a screen. Be interesting

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So you can all see that different practice routines are needed for different types of players.

Thanks Spike.