Topic: Swing Trainer - Power Swing Fan or Club Kite?

Hey daves how is the swing fan going now after 7 months ?
is it still working ?

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Hi Sandy,

I am not using it as much now (every other week), but funnily enough was thinking last night I would drag it out today and do a short session. I use it as swing aid to help make sure I am hitting through the ball and following through correctly, rather than as a power/strength builder. I did use it regularly for some months and found it really helped me.

If you continually hit a slice and/or swing “too fast”, I recommend one of these to help you hone your swing and rhythm and get your follow through going (strange but true that what your swing does after you hit the ball is the best indicator of where you are going wrong!). For the price ($35 delivered) I reckon they are a great training aid.

Topic: Swing Trainer - Power Swing Fan or Club Kite?

Hey daves how is the swing fan going now after 7 months ?
is it still working ?

Topic: How to Power the Golf Swing

Right on Spike man.

Ain’t it great when we’re staying up late…

For tuition in Sydney call 0412 070 820.

There’s no present like the time.

Big hug and thank you to Normalicious for enduring our late night drunken golf talks!!!

Topic: How to Power the Golf Swing

Joe needs to have a secondary effort going on for sure.

actually Pauly,

Joe needs life support as he has done natta for TGM in a long long time at least to the audience. Its a shame though.

Topic: How to Power the Golf Swing

I wish I could remember where I saw your post Dart, but it was HUGE for getting me started again. Something to the effect, you wished some of your students would go out with nothing more than acquired motion. They would hit little straight bullets and score better than they do now with their full swing.

Man, hitting , I could stand there and bend my right arm which cocks my left, and hit it very nicely using just #1 and #2 without a pivot. Get a little confidence, add a little pivot, that’s golf again! Homer, with help from you ALL and Blake/Trolio make it so easy!!!

I’m off to work, looking forward to what I will learn today…

Kevin

Topic: How to Power the Golf Swing

Kevin,

Your eloquence is only surpassed by your generosity. It makes us swell that we have you around.

Love that you are having fun. It happened to us too.

Topic: How to Power the Golf Swing

Right on Spike man.

Ain’t it great when we’re staying up late…

For tuition in Sydney call 0412 070 820.

Real world TGM right here. You guys are great at helping us take what we learned from the book to the golf course. I love that you give us permission to experiment, no right or wrong, it’s what makes us happy. I haven’t been this excited about golf in years!

Cheers,
Kevin

Topic: How to Power the Golf Swing

Right on Spike man.

Ain’t it great when we’re staying up late…

Topic: How to Power the Golf Swing

Nooooooo.

Loren has been a long time contributor to this forum and has well earned respect here. He is always pleasant, ariticulate, informative and funny.

I just wanted him to know.

BTW 66, I like your questions to The Dart. :) And I love his answers. Dart forces us to think and re-think, investigate and grow. He has blown my mind more times than you can imagine. Now I think I’m a genius!!!

He’s gotta be crackin’ up with Norma over a class of red.

Topic: How to Power the Golf Swing

That sounds like a so-long, goodbye, and thanks for the fishes kinda thanks, doesn’t it?
You’re not thinking of signing out are ya spike?

Topic: How to Power the Golf Swing

Holy Cow. Music to my ears. Thank you.

Topic: How to Power the Golf Swing

Dear Loren,

If you ain’t da man then it must be either one of the two Pauls….

Thank you so much for your insights into Homer’s work. I can’t measure how much I have learned from your posts through the years.

Cheers,
Spike

Topic: How to Power the Golf Swing

Drat.
Yes, you’re right Spike. Turned is right, rolled is left.
Good job.

Topic: How to Power the Golf Swing

Spike has it the correct way around. Or could it be that Loren being in the Northern Hemisphere as it the correct way – ala which way the water goes down the plug hole:)

Topic: How to Power the Golf Swing

Loren, I’m sorry but did you really mean to say this in your post 570?

What’s commonly termed strong or weak is referred to as “rolled” or “turned” in TGM. Rolled is right, turned is left.

Topic: How to Power the Golf Swing

Hey RS et al, have you seen this, could it be that Phil Mickelson has TGM tendencies? Maybe it doesn’t count as he’s left handed?Phil’s FRW

Topic: How to Power the Golf Swing

Strong is more after the top of the grip (1pm). Weaker is in the morning.

Topic: How to Power the Golf Swing

Thanks Loren, got my “strong-weak’ the wrong way, always confuses me, sorry. Loving the read…

Topic: How to Power the Golf Swing

Good-headed.
The turned left wrist is not a bad alternative (to the right,or “strong” direction), still with thumb aft. That’s a strong double action.
“Any left wrist bend at impact address should be maintained throughout. Maximum wristcocking action. Very compatible with cut shot procedures.” Homer Kelley (Not, “limited to”, I presume.)
May not be comfortable. Tendency to fade.
Of more interest to swingers than hitters with their “frozen” right wrist bend and less roll.

Topic: How to Power the Golf Swing

WOW, Kevin, coming from you I am flattered.

(Systems Analyst, not an AI)

I don’t know why, I’m just a bonehead rookie!

Loren, I have been trying to get my left hand a little stronger. Old habits die hard. What I just learned from you, after checking, is that I have rolled my hand a little bit, but kept the left thumb on top of the shaft, accomplishing nothing. When I move the thumb a little aft of the shaft it feels so much more solid. I can’t wait to try it. Funny how we can all keep learning if we pay attention!

Thanks again,
Kevin

Topic: How to Power the Golf Swing

WOW, Kevin, coming from you I am flattered.

Topic: How to Power the Golf Swing

Heh, well…
You mean rolled to the right? In common vernacular that would be a “strong” grip, I think, hooding the clubface. You’d pull/hook it.

Interesting to note that in TGM vernacular the terms strong and weak only refer to the location of the left thumb, strong being aft of the shaft and weak being on top of the shaft permitting different actions of the wrists and hands. What’s commonly termed strong or weak is referred to as “rolled” or “turned” in TGM. Rolled is right, turned is left. And remember, it is strongly recommended that the grip be taken in impact address to get proper alignments.

The point is that the only function of the left arm is to measure the radius to the ball and act as a tether to control the bend in the right elbow for infrastructure. It’s always trying to get away.
It’s easy to place the right forearm on the clubshaft (or sweetspot, slightly above) plane because the grip in the right hand is a palm grip, or should be. Right wrist bent back, vertical and level in line with the clubshaft forms the Right Forearm Flying Wedge. See Hogan or Moe Norman for right forearm on plane with the shaft at impact, the Golf School articles on Control Your Wedges (Flying, that is).

The only grip that preserves the flying wedges is the one (out of 7) preferred here and in TGM as the “strong, single action”, described as (at impact) FLV, BLV, thumb aft. Left wrist flat, level (neither cocked nor uncocked), vertical, right wrist bent, level vertical, thumb aft of the shaft. A (nearly) finger grip in the left, palm grip in the right puts the right forearm on plane with the shaft at impact.
Ideally, at impact we’d want the right shoulder, right forearm, all the pressure points in the hands and the sweetspot all in line.

(Systems Analyst, not an AI)

WOW, wonderful post Loren. I learned A LOT right there!!!

Thank You,
Kevin

Topic: How to Power the Golf Swing

Heh, well…
You mean rolled to the right? In common vernacular that would be a “strong” grip, I think, hooding the clubface. You’d pull/hook it.

Interesting to note that in TGM vernacular the terms strong and weak only refer to the location of the left thumb, strong being aft of the shaft and weak being on top of the shaft permitting different actions of the wrists and hands. What’s commonly termed strong or weak is referred to as “rolled” or “turned” in TGM. Rolled is right, turned is left. And remember, it is strongly recommended that the grip be taken in impact address to get proper alignments.

The point is that the only function of the left arm is to measure the radius to the ball and act as a tether to control the bend in the right elbow for infrastructure. It’s always trying to get away.
It’s easy to place the right forearm on the clubshaft (or sweetspot, slightly above) plane because the grip in the right hand is a palm grip, or should be. Right wrist bent back, vertical and level in line with the clubshaft forms the Right Forearm Flying Wedge. See Hogan or Moe Norman for right forearm on plane with the shaft at impact, the Golf School articles on Control Your Wedges (Flying, that is).

The only grip that preserves the flying wedges is the one (out of 7) preferred here and in TGM as the “strong, single action”, described as (at impact) FLV, BLV, thumb aft. Left wrist flat, level (neither cocked nor uncocked) and vertical, right wrist bent, level and vertical, thumb aft of the shaft. A (nearly) finger grip in the left, palm grip in the right puts the right forearm on plane with the shaft at impact.
Ideally, at impact we’d want the right forearm, all the pressure points in the hands, the left thumb and the sweetspot all in line.

Left arm close, but no cigar. The left wrist is not fully uncocked yet, still some roll left. Pay the left arm no mind.

Topic: How to Power the Golf Swing

Loren, what if the left hand grip were very weak, club would be de-lofted but could be close to on plane? Back of left hand facing up at impact. Not saying it would be pretty!

Topic: How to Power the Golf Swing

Thanks Loren, very good explanation. I’ll spend some time digesting that info and try your drills.
Cheers
G66