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Guys I have made a review up of the Vision Gloves, have a look and give me some feedback please.

Good feedback can be posted and bad feedback you can PM me /wink

Its here Nodez Vision Glove review #1

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Hi Guys,,,,,,

Thanks for the updates, it is always good to hear and yes the
painted FTL is very old school in presentation, so as the new
designs do finally make an appearance there wont be any paint involved as the FlexiGel cover material can be coloured and as
such gives the right amount of durability and feel.

I am not there yet with the new balls as the right adjustment in overall feel and more importantly putter and partial wedge feel
is now being achieved but overall driver distance on some of the
balls could be maxed out a bit further.

The PT and #1 + #2 in the hand written balls in white seem very
close to where I want to be next but the coloured versions need
more work.

Cheers,
Boz

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Had a practice 18 holes today and played the Vision ball with the big red crown on it and the hand written number…

I have only good things to say about this ball, it felt great off the face of all my clubs, it was not particularly long but certainly was not short.

I could work the ball either way when needed and it chipped and putted well.

It would probably be a gamer if it was available.

Nice work Boz…

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I have played a couple of rounds with the normal Vision yellow balls. My normal gamer is the FTL. I really like the feel of the yellow balls and am tempted to switch my regular ball. The big difference for me is the feel of the cover is so much nicer off the putter etc and it seems to wear quite a bit better than the FTL.

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Another round with the FTL. 37 points. Probably a stroke off hcp. Whole round with one ball. My only disappointment is my regulars know I use this ball and often pronounce ‘Fantom’ when they find or retrieve it for me…..shame it doesn’t say Vision with that lovely big arse number on it :(

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Thanks Boz.

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Thanks Kiwi,,,,

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The Gel V (Velocity) Circles with numbers and symbols

Long Distance and Straight Flight
Softer / Solid Feel Overall compression 70/75 with high COR due to the use of the hot dual density core.
Comparison products as a guide : Wilson D2.5 / Soft Feel / E5 / NXT / DT SoLo / HX Hot

The 808 prototype is testing a new core and colour for the X4UV but in a mid spin cover.

interesting boz
i love the D:25 but cant stand the feel of the soft feel now
bit to hard for me now & years ago couldn’t go past them
the new NXT tour soft (blue packet) is ok
Not a fan of the other 3 at all
nothing comes close to your packaging man #1 all the way

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Hit a lovely BOB around the course today for a sneaky 40 points. Played really nice and did what I told it to most of the day. Really like the way these feel and was super easy to see in the overcast conditions.

Formally known as Deep_Practice.

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Ahhh yes I revisited the BOB ball today, man it’s a nice ball.

I only scored 32 points with 2 fairways hit due to making a grip adjustment and not trusting that it would work but it did.

But I hit 7 GIR that BOB ball stops so well of a full shot.

No wonder it makes my top list!

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Hi Peg,

Son in hospital today so sorry not able to talk,,,,,

hope every thing is ok Boz

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Hi Bushy, sorry for the delay,,,,,

The Gel X (X-pert) Squares with numbers and symbols

Long Distance with improved Shot Shaping Control
Soft Solid Feel Overall compression is 80/85 with a High COR due to Dual Cover setup.
Comparison products as a guide : E6 / NXT Tour / Trispeed Tour / RX330 / HX Hot Bite

The Gel V (Velocity) Circles with numbers and symbols

Long Distance and Straight Flight
Softer / Solid Feel Overall compression 70/75 with high COR due to the use of the hot dual density core.
Comparison products as a guide : Wilson D2.5 / Soft Feel / E5 / NXT / DT SoLo / HX Hot

The 808 prototype is testing a new core and colour for the X4UV but in a mid spin cover.

Hi NW, think of it as a soft / soft Wilson ball or Srixon Soft Feel.
So the drop in core compression to gain forgiveness at lower
swing speeds means a compromise against a higher
compression design if you are a better player with a better
game. So in conclusion good info and helpful feedback.

Cheers,
Boz

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Tour prototype, no number, no logo, simply a hand-written “1” beneath the word Vision on the ball.

Seriously soft feel, buttery and almost silent off the irons.
so soft it almost felt heavy off driver and putter. The contact on the club just seemed to last longer than other balls.

Driver distance seemed OK but not as long as crowny or provvy.

I also thought this ball was shorter off the irons, almost a full club, than my “marker ball” the Provvy and certainly shorter than the Crowny.

I was hitting my typical iron into holes but coming up short, leading to some pretty long putts. I kept at it, using the irons I would normally use for a given distance, thinking it could not be the ball, it must be my swing/contact. It wasn’t…the ball was certainly shorter on irons.

It took a suicidal spear to the right of the fairway on 11, never to be seen again. My most sincerest apologies and deep sorrow over the loss of this ball…I know there are not many of these around and I am sorry.

BUT it did give me the chance to change to a Provvy to see if it was the ball doing certain things or my swing. My game picked up a little after the ball change and normal service was restored.

This prototype is a nice ball, very soft, good behaviour off full and partial swing, pulling up nice and quickly with very good flight and I thought minimum driver spin (the swing on 11 was genuinely bad). Just not for me…gimme more Crownies(!)

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Thanks Node. I’m currently playing the new 20xi but will start trialing the new ProV1x this weekend. I wanted to try both colours of the X3 to see where it sits in the scheme of things.

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Boz (or anyone), I’m interested in both the UV and White X3 balls and wanted some more in depth analysis/information.. What are the strengths/weaknesses, comparisons, thoughts, theories etc..
Thanks guys.

“If Ben Hogan saw that, he’d puke…”

Hard to give an over view as each person has their own preferences…

I love the X3 and still play it from time to time but I have other Vision Balls I play more often… As I say it’s an individual choice…

IMHO The X3 is a softer ball and that works for me….

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Hi Bushy,

I will have a look through my posts info for an overview,,,

Cheers,
Boz.

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Hmmm

Know a bit but not enough to answer your question in full…....

Will leave it to the master

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Boz (or anyone), I’m interested in both the UV and White X3 balls and wanted some more in depth analysis/information.. What are the strengths/weaknesses, comparisons, thoughts, theories etc..
Thanks guys.

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Hi Peg,

Son in hospital today so sorry not able to talk,,,,,

Hi Stuart, now you can also see why I send you balls, there
is a good group of test pilots now that bring the right detail
to the evaluation process that helps.

Talk soon,
Boz.

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Hey Boz,

That’s really funny. I reckon you are on a winner with the Riviera then, cause I have tried Q Stars and didn’t like them at all. Therefore, you have probably nailed the comparison there!

Interesting comment about the Willing ball being similar to the Bear. That’s why I enjoy testing blind – if you had told me before I started I would have been unconsciously biased as I think the Bears were an excellent ball. Glad that my testing seems to verify that.

and hence I didn’t let on either….

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Hey Boz,

That’s really funny. I reckon you are on a winner with the Riviera then, cause I have tried Q Stars and didn’t like them at all. Therefore, you have probably nailed the comparison there!

Interesting comment about the Willing ball being similar to the Bear. That’s why I enjoy testing blind – if you had told me before I started I would have been unconsciously biased as I think the Bears were an excellent ball. Glad that my testing seems to verify that.

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Hey Stuart, thanks for the details and it is a good read, have
you played the QStar? any thoughts on it as against the Riviera?

The only reason I have been continuing the Riviera trials as
it does seem to be able to take on the Qstar with a similar feel
and the Qstar with its large world wide TV promotion has a
decent player base to aim for. I believe it feels a little too heavy
on poor shots myself.

Also the winning ball is a very similar specification to your
old fav the Bear Ball ,,,,,,this is a very good design below
the Premium Tour type designs but at the top of the All
Ability from my long term testing.

Hi NW, I am looking at getting some Yellow and White PT
balls in perhaps a UV for preproduction testing, so I will
let you know.

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Second round with PTDS1002.
Bit more wind around so a more varied test rather than the early morning benign conditions from yesterday.

No real adverse commentary from yesterday. Still struggling to find the lines on the puts, but that is not the ball.

More confidence with the chipping resulted in 6 one-putts (that would be fairly short putts).

Distance longer than ProV1 still.

Iron spin is great and even shots hit a little long didn’t go too far away – this is very comforting.

Only sad thing is that the cover has not held up well…it is ready for retirement after 36holes…pity. This is no different to a provvy, for me.

Yup, I’m liking this ball. “please sir, I want some more”

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I should also point out that the durability of both the Willing and Riviera is great. The Z-star and B330 were looking very much the worse for wear at the end of the testing, while both the Vision options cleaned up well and still look fairly new.

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Following an excellent suggestion from Peg, I have instituted a new system of review. Each time, I will include both my current ball of choice (Srixon Z-star) and also a new equivalent premium option. I have also formalised the process a bit more. Over a period of a week or two, I spend a number of sessions around the practice green. I will hit each of the test balls from just off the green (chipping), and progressively go back ten metres until I am hitting forty metre pitches. After doing a similar process on the putting green (short putts with each ball followed by progressively longer ones) I then play a few rounds in which I simply see which ball scores the best (while also taking account distance from the tee, side spin, feel etc).

I’ll break this post up into two parts to make it easier to read – actual review to follow.

Thanks but I can’t claim full responsibility for the idea. Over the course of time I have been lucky enough to have many a yarn with Boz and we have discussed many a thing….
One thing we have discussed is the test results.
If you have a particular ball that you are confident in its performance and have the time and opportunity to play the to balls side by side, that gives you the best indication of performance. Also a ball that one day you might think this is not for me is always worth revisiting as our swings vary from day to day and what might feel ordinary one day might be the best thing since sliced bread the next.
The main point though is to have a given……. and I look forward to your review, in particular to a certain blue ball that you had

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Peg has Bear_Vision

I have previously included the Z-star as my control, but I liked the idea to include another similar (but unfamiliar) premium ball. I have already picked up some Taylormade Pentas and Wilson Staff for the time I do some testing :).

I also forgot to mention – the Willing was pink and the Riviera was blue. Didn’t particularly like the blue colouring, and thought it was quite difficult to find in the longer grass a few times. The pink was fine though. Still happier overall with the white and yellow.

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OK – have been doing some fairly intensive testing of the ‘Willing’, the ‘Riviera’, the ‘X4’ and the ‘888’. The comparison balls this time around were the Z-Star and I bought a sleeve of Bridgestone B330 Tour. I have previously expressed my conditional ‘like’ for the 888, but have no idea what the Willing or Riviera are either constructed of or designed to do.

As I have noted recently, our greens were cored a few weeks back. This has made meaningful testing somewhat difficult, as the reactions on the green were often totally random. The past week has been better, so I feel I am now in a position to comment on my impressions.

The initial short game testing was interesting. My emerging conclusion (a general one) is that the type of ball is largely irrelevant the closer you get to the hole. With both chipping and putting, any preference I had was largely due to feel and not result. The results were fairly random; I chipped in a number of times, but without any leader emerging. In terms of feel, I tended to like the Z-Star the most, but that was probably just familiarity. The B330 was good, but so was the 888 and Willing. I didn’t particularly like the feel of the Riviera, but overall its performance was no worse than the others.

However, once I started moving away from the green a bit more, I started to see a genuine difference in the balls. I realised that the most important thing I look for in a ball is consistency. Having played with the Z-Star for a number of years, I am fairly confident how it will react on the green. The Willing, while not spinning as much as the Z-star, was very consistent in its performance. I got the ‘feel’ for it fairly quickly, and could easily make allowances for its slightly longer run-out.

In contrast, I just couldn’t get a take on the Riviera. One would grab and spin a bit (not a lot) finishing short of the hole, but the next one just wouldn’t spin at all and would run well past the pin. The B330 was good, but I found no reason to switch to it from the Z-star. The 888 and X4 were also fine, but I actually did better with the Willing.

On course, I struggled to separate the balls too much. The Riviera was possibly the longest off the tee, but only into the wind and downhill. Up-hill and down-breeze, the Z-Star was the longest. The B330 was probably slightly shorter overall, but I am starting to conclude that most balls are now fairly equal in terms of overall distance. I didn’t see too much difference in terms of side-spin. With the exception of the X4, which was lost way left on the 5th following a massive duck hook :)

Overall, the Willing intrigues me. It is lower spin than the Z-star, but the consistent nature of its performance make it a viable option. I still think the ‘Crownie’ (PT) ball is the best one I have used in the Vision range, but the Willing could easily suit many people. I didn’t particularly like the Riviera, but the 888 continued to impress me more than the X4. I also rated the B330 Tour lower than the Z-star and won’t be switching to them anytime soon.