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Jan 18, 2013
Thumbnail live4golf 5625 posts

Topic: Vision Golf Ball Test

Hi guys, I received the latest batch of prototype goodness from Boz.

Just got a couple of quick questions if someone can help with…

Boz has provided an explanation of a few of the balls, couple not so sure on:
White ball, marked PTDS1002, large Blue Crown
White ball, hand-written number, prototype markings (same as other balls)
White ball, Tour Master

Which one should I use first up?

Cheers

 
Jan 17, 2013
Thumbnail Kiwi 17724 posts

Topic: Vision Golf Ball Test

PTDS1002 & Hand written x3 (with crown)

took both these balls to yarra bend tonight
walked down to the 1st green and spent an hour chipping and putting. Left the other 2 non vision balls at home.

putting – am getting used to the feel off the putter face and they roll very nicely. easy to lag too, nice and straight

60 deg wedge – spent a bit of time hitting flops and chips from say 35m down to 6m off the green, balls release nicely and feel real good off the face of the wedge,
as i was busy gas bagging to djcraig i didnt really get to compare them together,
so cant really pick a winner.

couldnt really get them to check as it wasnt the shot for it,
to close to the green
what i did notice was when i thought i didnt hit the ball hard/far enough it rolled out nicely & finished nice and close.

 
Jan 17, 2013
Thumbnail The_Boz 1858 posts

Topic: Vision Golf Ball Test

Hi Pom,

None of the current balls except maybe the Gel,,,,,,,
The new prototypes are a different matter as there are
two that take the best of the FTL and the Bear ball,,,,,

Cheers,
Boz.

 
Jan 17, 2013
Thumbnail pom 9592 posts

Topic: Vision Golf Ball Test

Tall chap.
As Peg has already posted. Russell is very special for a few of the test team. Quite a bit of history.( read Laughs ) behind the name of this ball.
Good luck with the continued improvement in your game. It is a Great game when things are going well.
Boz. Quick Question.
Which Vision ball would you say is closest in all Qualities to the FTL?

 
Jan 17, 2013
Thumbnail The_Boz 1858 posts

Topic: Vision Golf Ball Test

Hi Peg, good luck,,,,,,

Hi TC, great write up and yes I am working on the cover
feel of the 808 at present.

Cheers,
Boz.

 
Jan 17, 2013
Thumbnail pegasus2357 4723 posts

Topic: Vision Golf Ball Test

TallChap

Nice write up mate

Keep Mr Russell….... He is, well without going all the way back into history, the name of Boz’s first ball and as such should just sit somewhere as a collectors item.

 
Jan 17, 2013
Iseekgolf_80 TallChap 53 posts

Topic: Vision Golf Ball Test

Hi all, I received a box of visions to test just before Xmas and these are the ones I have played so far. I have played a minimum of 2 full rounds plus some practice with each of them. I play off 21, have only been playing golf for 18 months (addicted now) and am improving slowly but surely. My cap of 21 generally consists of about 9 holes playing like a 10 – 15 handicapper and 9 holes playing like a 36 – 100 handicapper.

X3UV – The first time I used this ball I was impressed how long it was off the tee for me. Also didnt seem to spin as much as what I was used to. Loved it. The colour really stands out as well, I’m a big fan. Wedges into the green rolled out a bit but was happy and putting it made a funny click sound, didnt seem to go as far as usual for me, but I got used to it. I really like this ball, suits me well.

White Gel – Felt a little softer than the above to me off the driver, and played very similar to the X3 as well. What I noticed the most with this ball was when I got a nice straight drive away it starts low and then climbs and climbs until it really gets high. Never had that trajectory before. I like this ball as well.

Tour One Prototype (blue writing) – This ball is beyond my capabilities at the moment. Felt soft, went pretty far but too much spin for me. I saved it for use on the par 3’s and went way better with it, a couple of huge suck backs off the tee from the 140 – 160mtr mark but alas, I dont think I have the skills yet for this ball. Where I did like it was putting though. Felt great, ran true as. If only I could change it out to finish holes after hitting another ball in…..

Red Crown Logo with handwritten “2” on it. – same as above, beyond my current skill set, loved the putting test I did with them both though. Felt this one was a bit longer than the Tour One though off the tee. Hit them both on a few holes for practice and this one was always a bit ahead (when they went straight).

FTL – Loved it but never really felt like I was on top of what I was doing with this ball. It goes long, nice ball flight, stopped on the greens, putted and chipped nicely, but I could never string together an entire hole with it. I ended up giving my remaining 2 to a mate that plays off 10 and he loooooved them. So much so he wants to game them a bit longer. I pointed him in the right direction online and he is in the process of ordering some.

808X prototype – What can I say, this is the ball for me. Used it the last 4 rounds I have played and now have 3 new flags on top of my golflink cap. I like everything about this ball and are hording my stash of them for comp days. For me and my skills it is long, straight, EASY to spot, stops on the green and putts great (used to the harder feel on the greens now). My only criticism is I dont like the feel of them on chip shots around the green to about 20 – 30 out, but the results are ok. And I’m not the worlds greatest chipper either so a work in progress.

Next to try are the “Mr. Russell”...? and a UVyellow with a crown on it. Also the Arctic White.

Cheers guys for reading such a long post and Boz, cheers for the package again, I am having heaps of fun trying out all these different balls. Hope my feedback helps.

 
Jan 16, 2013
Thumbnail The_Boz 1858 posts

Topic: Vision Golf Ball Test

Hi D,

808 globe and X are ball marking trials of a number replacement
concept where icons will be used, same ball UV 3 piece 1.3mm
cover prototype

Boz

 
Jan 16, 2013
Thumbnail NWABP 3745 posts

Topic: Vision Golf Ball Test

Hi Guys,

The UV Yellow 808 / Star trial print was an original updated
3 piece concept that we are still playing internally here until
I finalise the next series,,,,,soft core but clicky cover that still
works well on poor shots and you can spin them enough if
you are hit them properly,,,,

The 888 UV Proto / was just received and is similar to the PT
white I have been testing in 3 piece recently as have a few others.

Boz

.Please Read this Disclaimer which is an integral part of my Post
.My posts are just my written opinions,fiction or satire.
.No one was intended to be harmed by this post.

Thanks Boz, Pom
was wondering if there was really any great difference between 2 balls with the same name (808). I remember I quite liked Bob when I played him in 2011. See where I get to with the testing.

 
Jan 16, 2013
Thumbnail live4golf 5625 posts

Topic: Vision Golf Ball Test

My mate had some interesting feedback about the x3…he uses a 2-ball putter and he found the yellow ball to be easier to line up (2 white balls on the putter, yellow ball to hit). He did putt much better, so maybe there is something in that?

 
Jan 16, 2013
Thumbnail NWABP 3745 posts

Topic: Vision Golf Ball Test

playing with the Gel today until i dispatched it to a long-term leave of absence on the left side of a fairway.
Hit and X3White as the provisional and finished the hole with it…I hadn’t played an X3 for a while and had completely forgotten just how well this ball goes – long off the tee, nice behaviour on the green.
Running out of Gels so might resurrect the X3 until I get through the testing on the BIG pack of balls from Boz.

 
Jan 16, 2013
Thumbnail live4golf 5625 posts

Topic: Vision Golf Ball Test

Had my mate give the x3 a go last couple of weeks and he likes them….of course, the first one lasted 2 frigging holes before finding the water. He usually uses Penta and the x3 feels better to him, performs the same and stops on the greens rather than spinning madly. He also seems to get lower iron ball flight, something that he does not like but is better for him…

 
Jan 16, 2013
Thumbnail The_Boz 1858 posts

Topic: Vision Golf Ball Test

Hi Guys,

The UV Yellow 808 / Star trial print was an original updated
3 piece concept that we are still playing internally here until
I finalise the next series,,,,,soft core but clicky cover that still
works well on poor shots and you can spin them enough if
you are hit them properly,,,,

The 888 UV Proto / was just received and is similar to the PT
white I have been testing in 3 piece recently as have a few others.

Boz

 
Jan 15, 2013
Thumbnail pom 9592 posts

Topic: Vision Golf Ball Test

On another day I will take out the yellow family:
UVX3
UV808 prototype with the big X
UV808 prototype with globe (is there any difference between the X and the globe?)
UV888 TV prototype
UVX4 prototype
UV not further described with the big star and circular brand around

Better take a notepad – no way I’ll remember the subtle differences of 6 closely-related balls.

Think Maybe I can help a little here. The last ball on the list is one of the original type UV balls I believe.. The 2 808 balls to my mind felt exactly the same. Think it may just be different labelling.
The TV proto. I have not seen._ Boz. :-)
The X4 is exactly that. No more comment on that one & the X3 I think you may have already tried.
Hope this helps a little. If I say anymore I might get into trouble…

 
Jan 15, 2013
Thumbnail NWABP 3745 posts

Topic: Vision Golf Ball Test

Another of Boz’s mystery boxes arrived today – so many balls, so few hours! The standard additions – that new style glove looks good, I must say. I note the added feature/advertisement of being machine washable.

Quite a full test-pack, apart from the balls ordered, took only the white ones out for a putt this afternoon.

Putter is a Scotty, no insert.

Added a white Gel and White X3 to make up the numbers and to serve as marker balls:

Tour Lady seems quite hard and clicky or the firmest of all these balls
X3 less hard
Gel less hard
TourVisionOne Proto with the blue printing and blue crown is less hard again
TourVisionOne Proto with the black printing and hand-written “1” is THE softest.

Black-printed Proto is almost toooo soft off the putter for my liking although this did not affect distance control.

All balls ran smoothly and came off the putter cleanly and rolled similar distances (within the variability of the amateur putting stroke).

At first I thought the Tour Lady was taking more break than the others, but I was wrong…just pushing the stroke a little.

None of them seemed to “jump” off the putter face but I seemed to have an in-built need to stroke the black-printed proto harder because of the very soft feel.

Based purely on 45mins putting I am inclined to like the TourVisionOne blue-printed prototype, but I will have to take them all out for a chip’n’chunk session before coming to a preference.

On another day I will take out the yellow family:
UVX3
UV808 prototype with the big X
UV808 prototype with globe (is there any difference between the X and the globe?)
UV888 TV prototype
UVX4 prototype
UV not further described with the big star and circular brand around

Better take a notepad – no way I’ll remember the subtle differences of 6 closely-related balls.

 
Jan 14, 2013
Thumbnail Kiwi 17724 posts

Topic: Vision Golf Ball Test

Kiwi , The BigYard is also not a Vision / Fantom ball, it is
to compare the look etc,,,,,

ok cheers boz

 
Jan 14, 2013
Thumbnail PingVision 375 posts

Topic: Vision Golf Ball Test

I’ve been out of action for a while but back on deck, here’s My thoughts on the TV Proto.
I played Sat week ago with the TV proto in 40-42°c heat, damn it was hot!
I shot 1 under with it, 5 birdies, 4 bogeys and 9 pars, 2 of the bogeys on 17 and 18 (as usual!) To consolidate my thoughts I thought I’d try it again last sat, sadly, lost ball on the first hole :-/

In a short comparison to the Tour Yellow Zstar XV, the TV proto ;
· Feels softer but solid, very nice, this may sound stupid but when hit properly I feel like I could feel it compressing off woods and irons. The feel off the putter is very soft, but in saying that I’ve just gone back to my soft face Fisher Touch putter from my White Hot Odyssey 2ball Backstryke (sold!) obviously softens the feel a lot.
· I didn’t notice any difference in distance, I was hitting the same clubs as I normally would.
· Ball flight was basically the same as the Tour Yellow zstar xv, possibly partial to a bit more side spin than the other vision balls.
· Spin, this and durability are the keys for me (along with price). I have no issues with the durability of the Tour Yellow zstar xv. The TV proto took me back to the dark old days of when I was playing the ProV1x. After my 30m pitch to the first green it looked as if I’d run it down the side of a cheese grater. By the end of the day it was looking very second hand, to be expected though I imagine as……………………………………………THE SPIN! I stopped using Prov1x’s because of the cost, the lack of durability and the problem of too much spin on ¾ to full iron shots and inconsistency around the greens. This is where the TV proto steps up. Drop and stop on ¾ to full shots, maybe back up a meter, (same as Tour Yellow zstar XV) but none of the ridiculousness that I can get from the Prov’s. And then greenside, Yeehah. I found a real confidence in being able to throw the ball at the flag, it takes a couple of bounces then checks up nicely, a winner over the Tour Yellow Zstar xv. I’ve been playing more of a running greenside game with that ball and find that when I have to throw it up a bit it doesn’t have the stopping power. As mentioned earlier the downside is the durability, a trade for the spin I guess.
· The only other downside is the colour, I want yellow or something different, not off white ;-) the markings are good too.

Cheers and good hitting guys.

 
Jan 14, 2013
Thumbnail The_Boz 1858 posts

Topic: Vision Golf Ball Test

Kiwi , The BigYard is also not a Vision / Fantom ball, it is
to compare the look etc,,,,,

 
Jan 14, 2013
Thumbnail AllegingBow 5775 posts

Topic: Vision Golf Ball Test

Interesting. Will see what eventuates on the day. I’ll start with FTL and maybe change mid round. I find this a good way to evaluate.
My curiosity was more due to the constant referral to the Visions not being their standard.
Personally I think if you want a proV go buy one. Visions are a Vision and that’s what makes them good. IMO.

 
Jan 14, 2013
Thumbnail The_Boz 1858 posts

Topic: Vision Golf Ball Test

Hi AB,

The thing with the ProV1X is the core compression depending
on the model year can be between 95 and 103,,,,this is old
school hard and will feel firm ,,,,,,,yet the cover on putting and chipping with the latest models can disguise this quite well
,,,,,,except poor shots that will still feel as hard as ,,,,,,,

The ProV1 on the other hand can be 85 to 90 in its core
compression and as such can suit a much wider group of players.

It is similar to the core setup on the Pinnacle Exception which
felt good and went quite long even on poor shots,,,,the cover
and mantle mind you bring more shiot control and feel to the
Pro V1.

Boz

 
Jan 14, 2013
Thumbnail The_Boz 1858 posts

Topic: Vision Golf Ball Test

No probs Kiwi, I included it as I thought Russ might pass
some of the balls on and this (X4 Foremost) is an
interesting design.

They have been involved in many OEM balls and as such I
have ben curious as to why they would go into markets under
their own branding and what they might have lean’t in ball
specifications working with many USA companies.

As I have seen with my own urethane ball designs to date
getting the feel / sound right and then the performance is tricky.

Cheers,
Boz.

 
Jan 14, 2013
Thumbnail AllegingBow 5775 posts

Topic: Vision Golf Ball Test

Had a organisation of the bag and added fresh balls. In the transition I noticed my mixed bucket had a Titleist ProV1X staring at me. When I was caught in the disillusion I preferred the ProV1, not sure why as it was awhile ago.
As I’ve been playing the FTL for at least a year, and loving it, I thought it would be interesting to compare.
I had some pitch/chips in the backyard. I was surprised it felt firm and sounded clicky. A click similar to the Artic, IMO.
I’ve decided to give it a run to see how it compares. More for my own interest but I’m curious that my previous expectations/thoughts of this ball may not be the same now.

 
Jan 14, 2013
Thumbnail Kiwi 17724 posts

Topic: Vision Golf Ball Test

re X4 sorry my bad thought it was yours
will still test all fri hopefully

 
Jan 13, 2013
Thumbnail AllegingBow 5775 posts

Topic: Vision Golf Ball Test

No worries Boz
Figured it was a easy mistake. Foremost brand using the x4 makes it easy to mistake with the Vision X4 (Xpert 4)

Just like another brand stealing the Gel V series tag (Gel Velocity)

 
Jan 13, 2013
Thumbnail The_Boz 1858 posts

Topic: Vision Golf Ball Test

Hi Kiwi,

Foremost is not a Vision design,wait till you go to the full
shots as all real urethane balls will fall into the soft putt
and soft chip zone. The #3 is interesting but we have
a couple of better balls in play as well,,,,,,

Thanks AB for the headsup,,,,,

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