Topic: Cobra L4V Driver

It’s working well so far, though I haven’t had a chance to use it as much as I’d like because of the stupid heat wave and I’ve been flat out with work. I’m still not as comfortable with it as I was with my 905T, but we’re getting there.

I’ve still got the stock extra stiff shaft in there, and that’s treating me very well… I’m not sure if I’ll put the Protopype in there or not. I don’t think there’s any real need to at the moment, other than experimentation… I’m not sure if it will give me any noticeable increase in distance (I wouldn’t hesitate to say it’s 20m longer than the 905T – what was a 6 iron approach is now an 8, I’d just be greedy going for more distance) or accuracy (give it a decent swing and the ball will go where I aim it).

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I reckon it would be – the stock X flex in mine certainly doesn’t play like an X… more like a stiff.

How did your big L4V end up working out Finchy? Did you end up using the PYPE or stick to the stock shaft?

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I reckon it would be – the stock X flex in mine certainly doesn’t play like an X… more like a stiff.

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We’re not going for the Protopype yet. I hit a few with my pro/coach watching and he liked the way I was hitting it and said there wasn’t a need to change. May have had something to do with the way I was hitting them over the end of the driving range and on to the tee over the trees at the end. We stopped once we realized what I was doing… killing other golfers! It’d be nice to have a lower spin shaft but we’ll worry about that later.

Gotta work on consistency though… it seems I hit this either dead straight and looooong or give it a slight fade, which I’m not used to at all.

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So… I woke up today feeling great. I’m not entirely sure why some people have a bad experience with their wisdom teeth being taken out, but I sure didn’t. A very small amount of swelling, no bleeding, and minimal pain. A couple of early morning Voltaren and I was fine.

I went to my club to hit a bucket of balls – ended up hitting about 40 with irons and 20 with my new L4V X. Coincidentally, the Cobra rep was in the pro shop when I showed up. When he saw the club he was excited, but when I told him how much I paid his face fell and he said something about warranty not being valid if I get it re shafted by a third party… yeah, I can deal with that!

First thoughts… wow, it’s long. It’s forgiving, but give it a bad swing and it’ll let you know. The sound is a bit bizarre but I got used to it. On the range, I was consistently getting about 230m uphill carry – balls were routinely hitting the stand of trees at the end, a place I’ve never carried but regularly roll to with my other driver. The stock X flex shaft is too spinny for my liking and was ballooning a bit. With my Titleist 905T with the stock Fujikura stiff shaft, a poor swing is sent left. With this, a bad swing was a slight fade/slice, but nothing unmanageable like some of the pull hooks the Titleist can give me.

I ended up seeing a couple of mates there and went around for 18. After a terrible front 9 (12 over or some rubbish) I came good with a decent back 9 for me of 3 over, with 3 missed easy putts. Nuts. Of the 8 holes I use my driver on, I go for the fairway on 6. I ended up hitting 4 – on two holes the ball went too bloody far and ran in to trouble (strangely, both times on the back 9). The ball was still ballooning a bit and costing me a bit of distance, but I was able to work it both right and left and straight.

I had a chat with my pro after we played and he suggested that he look at me swinging it with the stock shaft before he re shafts it for me, which is fair enough.

I’m very happy – and I’d say without hesitation that even with the stock shaft, it’s at least 20m longer than my 905T, perhaps even more. I don’t need to swing any harder with this than I do with the 905, and it goes a lot further.

We’ll see what happens – I might end up with the Protopype in there. I hope I do, but convincing my pro to do it might be another matter!

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The F head is square and sometimes even slightly open. In the many i have seen described no-one has yet had one closed. One guy went thru multiples in a shop and still never got more closed than square. Be it the head or a shaft more active in the tip than my norm, i found the F very easy to draw, but certainly not a hook machine. Do you think you might even have to tip the X PYPE a little due to your substancial SS, the heavy head, and the lightness of the shaft? I am thinking you might, but of course tempo comes into it.

Hm, I guess they must create the draw bias with weights rather than face angle.

I’m not sure about tipping – ordinarily on a driver I’d play a stiff shaft (my 905T has the stock stiff Fujikura Speeder in it and I usually control that quite easily) but went extra stiff on this one because of the weight of the head and my swing isn’t getting any slower. Tempo is generally smooth although when I’m really pushing I can load it quite aggressively.

We’ll see, I guess. It’ll be an interesting experience…

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Windy you may belong to the small but select group of 90ish that has a home or actually find pleasure in the lower lofted territory
maybe your angle of attack is upwards and naturally this incr the dynamic loft

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I guess getting on a launch monitor may confirm this? Of course maybe I could change my swing, however, people who should know don’t think there’s anything radically wrong. I don’t believe them, but maybe I’ll wait until my next life and enjoy my golf for now:)

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Ok i see
apart from loft of the head
the shaft eg kick points and flex has a big effect on spin …plus the AOA ie angle of attack for a particular swing type

ie i may have the same ss as you but my AOA is upwards then a lower lofted driver mayb better in my case ?

kyc – this is an interesting discussion…maybe we both need to get on a launch monitor and see if we can find some answers:)

I’m very reluctant to use a low lofted driver ( 9.5) considering my s/s is 95+. One of my playing partners has a s/s of 100+ and uses a 12 degree driver and still hits it lower than I do! I have a full swing and he uses a powerful short backswing. Neither of us can use the others driver effectively. He can’t get mine off the ground and I lose distance with his. Our overall distance is similar and he has trouble controlling a low lofted driver where I don’t!

The shaft I use in the driver and hybids is the NV green and my playing partner hates that shaft. I’d love to use a higher lofted driver for peace of mind, I guess finding the right combo on a launch monitor may be the only answer?

Windy, what flex are you using for your 9.5* ?
regular ??
btw what is the length ? 45” or longer
what’s your av drive distance btw?

If Tiger plays Lefty will he be that good ?
You sure Square is Good ? Don’t Think So !
Good Golf is Fun plus the Great Outdoors…
In the Bag: Clubs and Balls. My Handicap is Bad Golf.

I use a regular flex NV 45” shaft in the J33P. I also have a Nickent 9.5 with a stiff ( rated 95+ mph) shaft. This is on the firm side for me and I don’t consistently get the same distance or control.

LOL…my average drive distance? The other night it was about 185M uphill and into the wind, and about 255 downhill with the wind behind ;- ) I guess that’s about 220M average?...lol Anyway, I’m happy enough with the distance I get, I guess I’m a litte paranoid considering most people say only golfers with high s/s speeds should be using low lofted drivers.

My only real fault with the driver is pull hooking the odd one way left…the right side of the fairway is very safe for me:) I think this is more an occasional OTT move, and any diver I hit will probably go left,...even my three wood does on occasions. Having said that, not as far left as the low lofted driver:(

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$AU600 for the L4V with the stock shaft? Ouch. Mine was $AU450 with the Aldila Protopype!

It arrives today but I’m getting my wisdom teeth out later… won’t be able to use it for a while :(

Ok, the L4v goes for $320 new and i would assume you nabbed one for about $280 second hand. The Pype is $126 from GW and i’d assume at least $30 shipping on each item. $466USD. I’ve never seen even a stock second hand L4V go for less than at least $255.

Obviously i am missing something and am keen to see what as a mate is going to get one of these very soon, possibly with the same Pype as you. $450AU with a Pype is an awesome deal, and one i think the mate would pull the trigger on.

Yeah my sums were out… I forgot to calculate shipping! I snaffled an L4V just after it had been listed with a buy it now price of $US280, slightly used. If it had been re-wrapped and sold as new I’d never have known… it’s pristine. The Protopype was from Golfworks, so the total was $US405 ($AU$440) but with shipping and fitting of the Protopype (I don’t do my own work) it’ll be around $AU520 or so.

We’ll see how I feel tomorrow… it might not get a work out until Monday :(

Not bad tho considering stock price is $600 and you will have one with one of the shaft upgrades everyone is singing about. I should be calling dibs on this one in case hahaha. Did you get the X head? I hit the 9* F with the stock stiff and tho it was whippy and high spinning it was surprising how accurately the ball was coming off. I’ve got no doubt a shaft of the ilk of yours would get me 25 meters. The big head is just ridiculously easy to hit straight, even with a crappy shaft. Your Pype or a WB 63 could well be frightening. Sorry to see you might struggle to test it soon, but be sure to give me a good rundown of how it goes. At the moment i am waiting for a 757 to arrive for my Version 1 TP Burner, man is it promising even with a too soft shaft. Hit a few monsters on Monday when i timed the shaft.

Yeah if I don’t like it I’ll be happy to flog it off on eBay and go back to my trusty 905T… it’s been treating me well enough for long enough.

I got the X head – last time I measured it my average driver head speed was just shy of 120mph, and if my current performance with my 905 is anything to go by I definitely don’t need a slightly draw biased head (even though some people reckon the F is square). I guess I’m in this for the forgiveness rather than the distance, but I don’t have a problem with my current set up so you could say I’m just greedy!

Once I test it out I’ll write about it here. I’m pretty disappointed with the timing… if it arrived earlier I’d have been able to test it out before getting the teeth pulled. Oh well!

The F head is square and sometimes even slightly open. In the many i have seen described no-one has yet had one closed. One guy went thru multiples in a shop and still never got more closed than square. Be it the head or a shaft more active in the tip than my norm, i found the F very easy to draw, but certainly not a hook machine. Do you think you might even have to tip the X PYPE a little due to your substancial SS, the heavy head, and the lightness of the shaft? I am thinking you might, but of course tempo comes into it.

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$AU600 for the L4V with the stock shaft? Ouch. Mine was $AU450 with the Aldila Protopype!

It arrives today but I’m getting my wisdom teeth out later… won’t be able to use it for a while :(

Ok, the L4v goes for $320 new and i would assume you nabbed one for about $280 second hand. The Pype is $126 from GW and i’d assume at least $30 shipping on each item. $466USD. I’ve never seen even a stock second hand L4V go for less than at least $255.

Obviously i am missing something and am keen to see what as a mate is going to get one of these very soon, possibly with the same Pype as you. $450AU with a Pype is an awesome deal, and one i think the mate would pull the trigger on.

Yeah my sums were out… I forgot to calculate shipping! I snaffled an L4V just after it had been listed with a buy it now price of $US280, slightly used. If it had been re-wrapped and sold as new I’d never have known… it’s pristine. The Protopype was from Golfworks, so the total was $US405 ($AU$440) but with shipping and fitting of the Protopype (I don’t do my own work) it’ll be around $AU520 or so.

We’ll see how I feel tomorrow… it might not get a work out until Monday :(

Not bad tho considering stock price is $600 and you will have one with one of the shaft upgrades everyone is singing about. I should be calling dibs on this one in case hahaha. Did you get the X head? I hit the 9* F with the stock stiff and tho it was whippy and high spinning it was surprising how accurately the ball was coming off. I’ve got no doubt a shaft of the ilk of yours would get me 25 meters. The big head is just ridiculously easy to hit straight, even with a crappy shaft. Your Pype or a WB 63 could well be frightening. Sorry to see you might struggle to test it soon, but be sure to give me a good rundown of how it goes. At the moment i am waiting for a 757 to arrive for my Version 1 TP Burner, man is it promising even with a too soft shaft. Hit a few monsters on Monday when i timed the shaft.

Yeah if I don’t like it I’ll be happy to flog it off on eBay and go back to my trusty 905T… it’s been treating me well enough for long enough.

I got the X head – last time I measured it my average driver head speed was just shy of 120mph, and if my current performance with my 905 is anything to go by I definitely don’t need a slightly draw biased head (even though some people reckon the F is square). I guess I’m in this for the forgiveness rather than the distance, but I don’t have a problem with my current set up so you could say I’m just greedy!

Once I test it out I’ll write about it here. I’m pretty disappointed with the timing… if it arrived earlier I’d have been able to test it out before getting the teeth pulled. Oh well!

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Ok i see
apart from loft of the head
the shaft eg kick points and flex has a big effect on spin …plus the AOA ie angle of attack for a particular swing type

ie i may have the same ss as you but my AOA is upwards then a lower lofted driver mayb better in my case ?

kyc – this is an interesting discussion…maybe we both need to get on a launch monitor and see if we can find some answers:)

I’m very reluctant to use a low lofted driver ( 9.5) considering my s/s is 95+. One of my playing partners has a s/s of 100+ and uses a 12 degree driver and still hits it lower than I do! I have a full swing and he uses a powerful short backswing. Neither of us can use the others driver effectively. He can’t get mine off the ground and I lose distance with his. Our overall distance is similar and he has trouble controlling a low lofted driver where I don’t!

The shaft I use in the driver and hybids is the NV green and my playing partner hates that shaft. I’d love to use a higher lofted driver for peace of mind, I guess finding the right combo on a launch monitor may be the only answer?

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$AU600 for the L4V with the stock shaft? Ouch. Mine was $AU450 with the Aldila Protopype!

It arrives today but I’m getting my wisdom teeth out later… won’t be able to use it for a while :(

Ok, the L4v goes for $320 new and i would assume you nabbed one for about $280 second hand. The Pype is $126 from GW and i’d assume at least $30 shipping on each item. $466USD. I’ve never seen even a stock second hand L4V go for less than at least $255.

Obviously i am missing something and am keen to see what as a mate is going to get one of these very soon, possibly with the same Pype as you. $450AU with a Pype is an awesome deal, and one i think the mate would pull the trigger on.

Yeah my sums were out… I forgot to calculate shipping! I snaffled an L4V just after it had been listed with a buy it now price of $US280, slightly used. If it had been re-wrapped and sold as new I’d never have known… it’s pristine. The Protopype was from Golfworks, so the total was $US405 ($AU$440) but with shipping and fitting of the Protopype (I don’t do my own work) it’ll be around $AU520 or so.

We’ll see how I feel tomorrow… it might not get a work out until Monday :(

Not bad tho considering stock price is $600 and you will have one with one of the shaft upgrades everyone is singing about. I should be calling dibs on this one in case hahaha. Did you get the X head? I hit the 9* F with the stock stiff and tho it was whippy and high spinning it was surprising how accurately the ball was coming off. I’ve got no doubt a shaft of the ilk of yours would get me 25 meters. The big head is just ridiculously easy to hit straight, even with a crappy shaft. Your Pype or a WB 63 could well be frightening. Sorry to see you might struggle to test it soon, but be sure to give me a good rundown of how it goes. At the moment i am waiting for a 757 to arrive for my Version 1 TP Burner, man is it promising even with a too soft shaft. Hit a few monsters on Monday when i timed the shaft.

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I played Hibore for few years. When I started improving my swing, the closed face caused me grief. I tried the Hibore XL before settling on the BUL. So you are not mistaken.

And yes, you are right there, are club/shaft factors and an individuals swing that will all vary what will suit each individual. Hence, club fitting….

However, IMO (and I stress IMHO) very few average golfers benefit from lower lofted clubheads. They should look at other options if the ball is ballooning.

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There are driver heads and shafts that can accomodate higher spin or lower spin conditions. For example I hit Hibore XL and Adams BUL side by side with very different results. XL low spin, BUL would be mid-high.

You are absolutely right, lower loft means much less forgiveness. Even Tour Pros are returning to 9.5 and 10.5 degree drivers, but using lower spin shafts to minimize spin and dispersion.

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Not necessarily. I have made a broad generalisation.

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Kyc… yeah it can vary from club to club and manufacturer to manufacturer.

Apparently the stock offering in the BUL can vary in flex though. My brother who is a faster swing speed and probably 10-15m longer than me has swung my BUL and got amazing results. Makes me think the regular stock shaft I have is certainly not soft to flex.

It is a higher spin club head than the Hibore so if you were a high spin player then the 10.5 may balloon. However, if you have similar swing speed to me you probably aren’t too high spin.

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the BUL 5000
is not exactly traditional shaped
BUL = Big/Bulky/Black, Ugly and Long

adlo, what loft and flex u play with btw ?
and what’s your average drive distance ?

If Tiger plays Lefty will he be that good ?
You sure Square is Good ? Don’t Think So !
Good Golf is Fun plus the Great Outdoors…
In the Bag: Clubs and Balls. My Handicap is Bad Golf.

Believe it or not, it is a really nice looking club at address. Sure the club head is big, but that’s no different to any 460cc driver head. Some 460cc heads look big and bulky, this one doesn’t. I play a 10.5 Regular. I played 10.5 Stiff in the Hibore. I have gone to the regular shaft as it is helping with increased launch angle. Drive distance with this club (which I find doesn’t vary much from club to club- only launch conditions vary) would be about 200-210 carry, and depending on the course total drive distance with roll 215-235m. FYI Driver SS is low 90’s and 7 iron carry approx 135-140m.

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Hi Fellas,

Has any one tried the Adams Golf Insight BUL 5000 (MOI 4900+ to 5000) Driver or the Wilson Staff Spine Driver ?

Hows this compared with the L4Vs or the other ‘newer’ drivers out there?

Much Appreciate

If Tiger plays Lefty will he be that good ?
You sure Square is Good ? Don’t Think So !
Good Golf is Fun plus the Great Outdoors…
In the Bag: Clubs and Balls. My Handicap is Bad Golf.

I play the Adams Insight BUL 5000. I love it. I can’t compare it to the L4V though. I have hit most of the recent drivers and for me it is the best. Nice traditional shape, excellent sound and feel, very forgiving, great launch and ridiculously cheap from the US. Sets up very square. I find too many drivers are closed faced.

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$AU600 for the L4V with the stock shaft? Ouch. Mine was $AU450 with the Aldila Protopype!

It arrives today but I’m getting my wisdom teeth out later… won’t be able to use it for a while :(

Ok, the L4v goes for $320 new and i would assume you nabbed one for about $280 second hand. The Pype is $126 from GW and i’d assume at least $30 shipping on each item. $466USD. I’ve never seen even a stock second hand L4V go for less than at least $255.

Obviously i am missing something and am keen to see what as a mate is going to get one of these very soon, possibly with the same Pype as you. $450AU with a Pype is an awesome deal, and one i think the mate would pull the trigger on.

We’ll see how I feel tomorrow… it might not get a work out until Monday :(

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$AU600 for the L4V with the stock shaft? Ouch. Mine was $AU450 with the Aldila Protopype!

It arrives today but I’m getting my wisdom teeth out later… won’t be able to use it for a while :(

Ok, the L4v goes for $320 new and i would assume you nabbed one for about $280 second hand. The Pype is $126 from GW and i’d assume at least $30 shipping on each item. $466USD. I’ve never seen even a stock second hand L4V go for less than at least $255.

Obviously i am missing something and am keen to see what as a mate is going to get one of these very soon, possibly with the same Pype as you. $450AU with a Pype is an awesome deal, and one i think the mate would pull the trigger on.

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$AU600 for the L4V with the stock shaft? Ouch. Mine was $AU450 with the Aldila Protopype!

It arrives today but I’m getting my wisdom teeth out later… won’t be able to use it for a while :(

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I shafted a L4V F 9 deg the other day with an Accuflex Icon V2 shaft (S) @ 45” long. Also added 12 grams weight to bring it upto my preffered head weight. The F head I have is almost dead square but I believe they are suppose to be closed?

Firstly the Cobra head has that crappy sound but you could get used to it I suppose. Secondly I am not used to hitting such a shallow head but I am warming to it. Thirdly it is as long as anything I have used. Fourth, very easy to hit this straight. A not so perfect swing or off centre strike still flies quite straight and nearly as long as good strikes.

Anyway my impressions are:
-very easy to hit straight
-flight can still be worked but it seems a little bit harder to do with this head than what I am used to.
-very forgiving on mishits with not too much distance loss
-quite a large sweetspot. This is why I believe it is a well designed head. I wouldn’t get too hyped up about it but it does what it is supposed to do.
-shots dead centre and just below the centre line have the best trajectory for me. Shots higher up on the face tend to be high but not ballooning at all.
-This head shaft combo I am currently using gives quite alot of run.
-nice to look at for an unconventional shape
-crap sound
-will be my gamer for while.

Is it worth $600 AUD with the stock shaft? I doubt it. That is why I was lucky enough just to get a head with my specs.

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I hit the LD F-Speed last year, twas THE shit.
If i had some more mulahs i’d buy that in a heartbeat, maybe i should just get one of these instead?..

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Hi Guys, me again.
I just read of the new Cobra FP irons and am about to look for another demo day to try the L4V and these irons if they feel good I will start looking for a good price. Those coments about the shafts intrigue me …... I wonder how you guys will feel about the shafts in the irons.
My handicap is 13 and on the way down as I now can get to the course/practice fairway up to 3 times a week.
I swing at just below 100mph and currently have 1 1/8” longer shafts as I am 6’ 3” do you think this set will suit?

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I have never warmed to cobra drivers before, they look nice they feel great just distance wise I wasnt happy….but get right shaft and you can make most of the modern heads go ok