Topic: Ask Golf Guru - Golf Instruction / Let's Talk GOLF MACHINE!

Edwin has him well illustrated – pre and current – with edwins teaching lines al over the place, but all the vids of this are in Edwins member vault, and I’m not all that keen on spending another 39 bucks for the privelege having seen them already. I’d flick you a link if i could but my user ID is now unfinancial there…

Topic: Golf Talk / Appleby on Denton Tonight

try this guys…

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/en...

Topic: Ask Golf Guru - Golf Instruction / feeling lag

Had a session with Dart Friday, and it has changed my view on what I thought I was doing to create lag.

Dart mentioned the feeling of fingertips, and after hitting a few hundred chips/pitches I have noticed a thing or two I think..
1. You can create the lag almost instantly from take away, and from my point of view, the first telling sign for me is feeling the club start to resist the backward motion in my middle and ring finger of my right hand. IF I DONT GET THIS FEELING I FIND THE QUALITY OF IMPACT SUFFERS.

2. as I change direction into the hitting motion, Its like I can feel this fingertip sensation slam itself into the pressure point #3.

If I get the feeling as described in pos 1, quality impact via 2 above is almost too easy.

Cheers All.

Topic: Ask Golf Guru - Golf Instruction / Let's Talk GOLF MACHINE!

Puzzles me does Pete Senior.. A Dead set poster boy for the Edwin right sided swing model now.. in fact..in one of the Edwin vids you can get from the GE website you can hear him talking about how Edwins’ philosophies/teaching kept him in the game and wanting to still play competitive golf..

Edwins site does have a great deal of footage of PS before and after his Edwin workover, and to say the least, a lot has changed with his swing. He is a dead set hitter for sure, especially nowdays, he was far more ‘roundhouse swing/hit’ pre edwin.

What doesn’t puzzle me however is his ability to do what the pro game is all about, and that’s make plenty of CASH with what he’s got..

Topic: Ask Golf Guru - Golf Instruction / Learning to swing on plane

when do you leave for O/S dart.. can we fix up a session or two quickly?

Topic: Golf Talk / NSWGA names Interstate Team

like to see the QLD side.. bet there’s good names there..

Topic: Ask Golf Guru - Golf Instruction / Jim Hardy -the Plane Truth?

Hi all,

Ive been a pretty serious follower of the JH plane truth stuff for a few years..Both books and his DVD collection as well as to date all of his Secrets series DVDs which followed his DVD collection.

I could write reams of info about the specifics of his instruction and its direction, but thats just goign to be a waste of time. here are a few positives and a few negatives from his material. as I see it:

THE patterns are simplistic – and he definitely leans towards his OPS model. as for flexibility his OPS model feels like it generates from your core.. Thus think any serious student may need to work on thier flexibility. I think his OPS is a great piece groundwork for a pretty good swing pattern BTW.

The problem with the simplistic patterns are that faults tended to be pidgeon hole problems, so i felt you were only fixing a little fault, and sometimes not its cause. for example..in his first and third vault series DVD what he wanted you to with things like your right arm motion through the downswing..

As he segmented his swing models through the book and the DVD, it made me wonder about the breakdown of specific components, parts and motions.. his motions still tended to be by groups. So personally I went looking for more and specific info in some areas (this led me to my first copy of TGM).

It was also frightfully hard to find anyone with or the ability to teach through his system out here in Australia too BTW..

Did I benefit from his material? Yes, no doubt, it was pretty good in many respects, however, was it could, or could it fix problems and more importantly their causes (which is where you really need learned instructors)? conditionally yes but only if you had a swing model that fitted into the defined OPS/TPS model he advocated.

One of the biggest conjectured debates on his website over quite a bit of time was those who many though had his OPS backswing but then fell into his TPS release..watching these models constantly had me believe that his OPS pattern was probably more like a basic hitting pattern from TGM, free shoulder turn against restricted hips knees and feet, club on the shoulder plane for the backswing, with a plane shift release – hands try and come down same plane line but clubhead outside hands on the downswing, and a hard throw ( wrist roll) to the left through impact (full horizontal hinge?)..

I really didn’t like how he had you drop your head height, or increase your spine angle on the downswing either.. it seriously mucked around with the downswing plane..

Topic: Ask Golf Guru - Golf Instruction / one or two plane swing

www.jimhardygolf.com there was quite an active forum on his principles, and some links to his DVD series, but over the last few months things have really quietened down.. still worth a look if your inclined.

Also do an archive search on www.golfdigest.com and you’ll find both of his instruction articles still there..

Topic: Ask Golf Guru - Golf Instruction / How does it feel when sustaining lag or delaying release?

u8,

Sure has a way with letters.

.

I know all 26 of em..

Topic: Ask Golf Guru - Golf Instruction / How does it feel when sustaining lag or delaying release?

Darty,

You definitely have a way with words…

Lucky the dog is dead, it certainly would be scuffed up after we had swung it a few times.

Just hope the RSPCA doesn’t attend my next training session!! :P

Some dream, others DO!

Please gentlemen. At this point of the discussion I can only announce my discord. As a veterinarian practitioner I cannot let you kill all these dogs any more !!!
Have you heard about Ben Doyle’s drag the wet mop exercice. This sensation is reported by Homer’s too.
So forget the dogs. Buy a mop. And tell your wifes I was the one for the trick. They will be delighted to notice your profit-sharing for the household ;)

I’m french, but I treat myself…

LMFAO..TYVM . PTV

Topic: Ask Golf Guru - Golf Instruction / croker videos

aah… but only if you have been redirected to the access site.. which didn’t happen…thanks to Peter who did contact me via mobile phone, and his webmaster who fixed the link..

Topic: Ask Golf Guru - Golf Instruction / croker videos

just paid for the TGM videos from the Dart and Croker.. via paypal .. so how do I watch them now?

Topic: Ask Golf Guru - Golf Instruction / Let's Talk GOLF MACHINE!

Now to take you to task admin.. this thread has 10490plus independant page views and 480 plus posts recorded since it started a couple of weeks ago.

If people want to just scan the posts, read the first paragraph, and then scroll to the end, then how could you possible say that the length of post has put people off? who cares if they do that..10490 seems to suggest to me that there are quite few out the reading and returning to it..

You are a professional web developer sure, and this thread to a layman could well be described as a highly technical thread on a facet or theory of instruction on learning in the game of golf, and this information is probably coming from some of the most learned minds in the world when it comes to this approach to the game. Most readers may well not get it at all in the first place, but for those of us who do, it has been pretty compelling. It has covered a LOT of ground and probably will cover a whole lot more.

Please, please be more considerate towards the posters when they offer the insights they have, their value has been immense to many.

Too long and boring, or is it wasting space or bandwidth? No, I think not..

Topic: Ask Golf Guru - Golf Instruction / Let's Talk GOLF MACHINE!

There is always room for information – most would prefer short and concise for sure… HOWEVER, I cant really see how these posts could have been cut quite frankly…

To be honest, Homer’s information in TGM is short and concise – but there are 200 plus pages of short and concise for every concievable piece of the pie called golf. This may seem to imply that some of it may well not be needed..But, those who have read and then re read the book, we are still able to learn from it every time..

Why? as many poster have said with it comes wisdom..And with wisdom comes discussion..TEll me Lag, Dart, Guru et al, do you still learn from the book nowdays?

Now admin as for keeping them shorter, well if it loses a few along the way, well maybe they ‘aint gunna get it’ anyway..

and , on another point is does keep your dwell number up on the page view…

Topic: The Lounge / Where to live in the Wollongong area

Isn’t Kiama full of retired chalkies?

There’s the odd one or two (Hundred) lol

Club: Kiama Golf Club

hcp: 2008 lowest 25.9
hcp: 2008 highest 27.6
hcp: 2008 current 26.1

Heard it was closer to one or two thousand…

Topic: Ask Golf Guru - Golf Instruction / Let's Talk GOLF MACHINE!

Lag,
How often do you feel the need to go back to (your) the basic motion? Basic positions? from a personal point of view, I find that sometimes, even perhaps only after 30 or 40 balls ( and I practice every day) that I need to do it simply to act as a circuit breaker for want of a better term. Also make no mistake …I love to practice, as for calling it work, really it is not the term for me.. cheers..

Topic: The Lounge / Where to live in the Wollongong area

Skip Wollongong, and move to Kiama, great area great schools, only 30 mins to Wollongong for work

Club: Kiama Golf Club

hcp: 2008 lowest 25.9
hcp: 2008 highest 27.6
hcp: 2008 current 26.1

Isn’t Kiama full of retired chalkies?

Topic: Ask Golf Guru - Golf Instruction / Let's Talk GOLF MACHINE!

Gotta ask Lag, what ball do you use nowdays? Titleist Balatas are a little hard to come by, though I still seem to seee an old tour 100 tour 90 or so in reasonable condition turn up every now and then..

Topic: Ask Golf Guru - Golf Instruction / Late notice, hitting poorly

Who won?

Topic: Ask Golf Guru - Golf Instruction / Basic Motion

Even playing that good I only won by one stroke over Bradley Hughes!

Topic: Golf Talk / Laser Vision Correction.

Saw the $1500 places advertising a couple of months ago, can’t remember where though it was in Sydney.

I Had mine done 5 years ago, and could not begin to tell you how well it went.

Want to improve your game? then spend it on the eye surgery before you buy another set of clubs. Wanna See that drive land, or that wedge back up on the green? Chrystal clear and in total ( not just through a lens) and that’s what its like.

If you’re keen, I Had mine done in the Bum Ran Gard International Hospital in Bangkok…saved the price of the airfare in the cost difference alone.. and the quality of the place was amazing… like a 5 star hotel, not like the shitholes we call hospitals out here. Doctor that did mine was a Thai trained in Canada, and he spoke like one too.

All up best thing I have ever done..helped with golf helped with work, helped with swimming and a heap of other things..too Easy a Decision AFAIC..

Topic: The Lounge / Beef soup any good recipes?

They were stuffed.. looked like deformed white meat balls..The rubber banding inside the TB had broken, and managed to pierce through the skin in places, so they looked like broken spaghetti strands sticking through them..

Topic: Golf Talk / EBAY has been found out finally by the ACCC

http://news.smh.com.au/nati...

Topic: The Lounge / Beef soup any good recipes?

Aah but you miss the Zen that comes with cooking.. bit of tinkering in the Cucina helps the Seratonin levels no end..happy happy happy.. thus better golf..

Now as for the soup..when you get it down pat..simply get it started, simmering away..this leaves plenty of time for some practice even a few holes and you’ll get home and voila!!! dinner..

never scrimp on quality food for an excess of golf AFAIC.

I learnt this a long time ago.. Came home after a particularly long 36 hole Vardon to find my good wife had cooked dinner, well soup actually..Titleist Tour Balata and Vegetable soup…1 Dozen brand new TB straight out of the box and into the soup.. As she said.. you want to live, breath, and sleep golf, Then eat golf as well…...

T’was about this time that I realised I needed a better soup recipe than hers…

Topic: Ask Golf Guru - Golf Instruction / My journey into the world of TGM.

October eh?

I take it that is where Guru is heading after he fixes me! Wonder if I can hide in his bags :)

MrC – I found it not too bad till I started chptr 10. Then my ears began to bleed lol!

Still working my way through it. LB is a great site where you’ll find quite a few familiar faces :)

Its better to stay silent and look a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

– Mark Twain

See I found ch10 to be the “Keys to start the engine” so to speak everything from there became clearer..