Topic: Croker Golf System

I was always a bit concerned about taking lessons until I heard about the Peter Croker System… If you have the patience this training technique is truly amazing.. My grip has improved therefore I’m making accurate and better contact..my stance was incorrect and you don’t realize these small but important adjustments until you see yourself on video.. It will take time as you start from hitting that perfect chip shot eventually hitting a perfect full swing.. Get on board it is 100% beneficial.

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Topic: Croker Golf System

I was always a bit concerned about taking lessons until I heard about the Peter Croker System… If you have the patience this training technique is truly amazing.. My grip has improved therefore I’m making accurate and better contact..my stance was incorrect and you don’t realize these small but important adjustments until you see yourself on video.. It will take time as you start from hitting that perfect chip shot eventually hitting a perfect full swing.. Get on board it is 100% beneficial.

Topic: Croker Golf System

hi peter, this is paul. your student from overseas! i have to review back to lesson 5 because i can’t find a consistent shot. out of 10 chip shots, i only get around 2 or 3 that are perfect. the rest are either hit over the ball or too low that it hits more dirt than ball. thank you for the videos! they work great.

Dear Hitman49,

In regards your question here on making a more consistent strike on the ball and therefore being able to hit the ball both straight and the right length so the ball can finish close to the pin, may I suggest the following:
1. Make sure you are set up for the “chip shot” with a correct grip and stance.
2. Start with very slow “practice swings” where you consistently brush the ground in the same place.
3. Next make small “chip shot” swings and use a golf tee as a target.
4. Now add a golf ball on top of the tee where the tee is very low to the ground and hit the ball consistently only 1 to 2 metres. When you can achieve this consistently, remove the tee and hit shots off the ground from good lies.
5. Move out in distance hitting the ball an extra 1 metre at a time and only extend the distance you hit it when you can hit a minimum of 3 to 5 balls in a row to that distance.
Doing this type of practice allows you to gain more comptence and in the process more confidence and consistency.

PS: This question would be better posted on “The Step by Step” Thread and I will also post it there for those following that Thread.

Topic: Croker Golf System

hi peter, this is paul. your student from overseas! i have to review back to lesson 5 because i can’t find a consistent shot. out of 10 chip shots, i only get around 2 or 3 that are perfect. the rest are either hit over the ball or too low that it hits more dirt than ball. thank you for the videos! they work great.

Topic: Croker Golf System

hitman49,

You have me guessing? Please ring me and let me know which student you are doing a 10 Lesson Program with me at present.

Certainly I find the V1 a great asset to both student and teacher. I could not deliver a quality lesson without it. No student can remember all the pieces dished up in a lesson and to refer back to the Lesson over and over again is part of being a great student too!

See you again soon, whoever you are?

Kind Regards,

Peter C

Topic: Croker Golf System

Dear Mekat,

The Adelaide Shores Golf Course is a real gem and all parties involved in running this place should be congratulated.

Peter Ormsby has done such a super job on coordinating the Legends Tour in South Australia and my hat is off to him and his team at Adelaide Shores.

They treated all of us on the Legends Tour with the best in all areas.

Thanks to Westward Ho Golf Club for all their support also. I heard that the Junior Program there was awarded a top Award recently so it goes from young to the not so young that are well treated there.

I look forward to coming back next year.

Regards,

Peter C

Topic: Croker Golf System

Peter, this is totally of topic, but I saw your name in the draw for the Swanbury Penglase SA PGA Senior Championship at my home course tomorrow (Adelaide Shores). I would be interested in your thoughts on the course. I recognise it is not a technically difficult course, but it has its own challenges.

Topic: Croker Golf System

Peter was the best golf teacher I ever had (IMO). The V1 lessons he has been sending me helped me a lot with both my short and long game. The videos are on a step by step program so learning golf is like learning ABC. The model is the Ben Hogan swing and his swing is really a gift from heaven! I’m enrolled for a 10-lesson package at the Dunes right now – amazing golf course!

Topic: Croker Golf System

Dear Toto,

I am not sure what age you are or if you have ever played tournament golf at any level on any Tour

Anyone who plays at a high level of competence would be in awe of what Simon has done this last year.

Simon is only 57 and has posted lower scores this last year on average than his first season as a Senior when he won a European Senior Tour event also.

Anyway Simon has just posted some extra data on his thoughts on “Stack & Tilt” and I thought this might be of interest to those who are interested in CGS and how it rates against other methods as seen by those who have tested out CGS thoroughly.
The Croker Golf System is founded in TGM principles – the geometry of the circle – the physics of Rotation – and geometric alignments of the components that maximize power and control and minimize stress on the body and brain.
Simon applies CGS very well and i anticipate him to do even better in 2008.

Here is Simon’s extra thoughts on “Stack & Tilt.”

Since my first post on “Stack & Tilt” I’ve had a few more thoughts on the subject in question.
My over-riding problem with the S & T method is this – Why would you not want to use the strong rotary force in the downswing?
When I first saw the explanation of how the S & T system works it was like taking a trip back to the good old 60’s. You remember, flower power, The Momma’s & the Poppas, hippies and the dreaded reverse C in the golf swing.
Well, this strong lateral hip slide advocated by the S & T method really reminds me of the golf swing of that era. I never in my wildest dreams thought the reverse C would ever be reinvented and renamed.
It seems to me that the only reason a reverse C would be required in the downswing is because the golfer hasn’t coiled properly in the backswing and therefore the arms and hands are in the wrong position at the top of the backswing.
If anyone reading this is not too sure what I’m getting at, then I would strongly urge that person to invest a few dollars in the CGS levels program so that you’ll get a good understanding of the golf swing as a whole. Not just a few bits here and there. The golf swing IS a whole motion and needs to be taught and understood as a WHOLE motion. NO SHORTCUTS !!!!
Personally, I’ve worked with Peter for some years now but I must say I’ve found his “Levels Program” to be the most enlightening sessions I’ve had with him. I’ve learnt so much and I’m continuing to learn as I go through the program.
So well done Peter. I, for one, have learnt a lot and I’m certain I’ll turn this new found knowledge into $$$’s during my 2008 season on the European PGA Senior’s Tour.

Keep up the good work Peter,
See you on the leader board,
Best wishes,

Simon Owen

An official iseekgolf.com teaching panelist PGA Teaching Professional,The Dunes Golf Links, Rye, Victoria, Australia
Ph: 0415292549
www.crokergolfsystem.com

Dear Simon,

I hope you have recovered from the shoulder injury and getting back into golf. We miss you on the Legends Tour here in Australia. Hope to see you back when the Queensland leg comes round.

Meanwhile to add clarification to what helps keep the club head on the right path, please check out this video on “HOW to Downswing on an Inside-Out Path.” I did it for another Legends Tour Player who has had some great results on the regular European Tour, just like you.

Let us see you back playing again soon.

Kind regards,

Peter C

Topic: Croker Golf System

Nice to here from you Matthew, bringing back an old but good thread I see. Currently, Peters has a great thread going with over 7,000 views. His method has been well received. Maybe you can make some comments on it to keep it going strong, better get permission from the boss first : )

Step by Step with Peter Croker

Matthew Stapleton

Topic: Croker Golf System

Hi Everybody, I am a PGA Member and have been since 2000. My career has been a journey to find ‘the truth’ about the golf swing and ‘the truth’ on club fitting.

Early on in my career I found the truth on club fitting and I have been able to help my students with their choice on equipment. I never discard any fitting method until I have thoroughly investigated the results. In my career I have Australasian Club fitter of the Year and I have had the opportunity to have a key involvement in the PGA PDP Program and have been a mentor to the NSW PGA Trainees. I have been blessed with learning the right techniques from the right people early on in my career in this field. Thank you Mr Mark Gibson, you shaped my career and my life.

In junior golf I have had the opportunity to develop strong development programs in 3 states in Australia and all my success, the awards that I have been lucky enough to have achieved were a direct result of the information, dedication, and passion of Mr Glenn Whittle. I am grateful.

In my search for answers on the golf swing it is only recently in my career that I have found the method that can permantently and immediately improve all golfers, male or female, young or old. That knowledge came from PGA Member Mr Peter Croker. The step by step program changes golf swings quicker and easier than anything that I have yet seen. My eyes have been opened to an entire new method in learning that I have the privelidge of sharing with my students. I have achieved success previously in own teaching having been a home coach to the New South Wales Institute of Sport, but now, for me…. the sky is the limit.

I feel that through Peter’s program that I can help people so much better than before, and from a personal playing perspective, I have never hit the ball so sweetly and so straight.

Honestly, I had lost faith in giving lessons, not getting the results that I so wanted for my students. Now, I’m alive again! I can breath each day with a new excitement that I can make a difference.

Thank you Peter for teaching me how to deliver your program, my students thank you too. You have changed my life.

Matthew Stapleton

Topic: Clear Keys

A good to have an open mind to keep learning :)

Topic: Clear Keys

It all went well ISGG and thanks for your advice and only a small posture change was made so there wasn’t much manual. He was really interested in all about the clear keys and the “automatic” mode that i was showing him.
He was a big supporter by the end of the lesson and wanted more info as i was absolutely flushing it on auto and was impressed!
He was noticing my tempo through the ball was much more controlled on auto whereas it was a bit hit and miss on manual both today and previously.
He said he has a few of his pupils in mind!

He is the pro at the Lakes in Sydney so loves all different things.

Topic: Clear Keys

Jetset: Use all your ears and eyes on manual for the lesson itself. There will be new information that you will have to soak up and built the initial feelings of the mechanics from.

Post the lesson, go back to fitting the new into into a 32 ball drill and it will help soak it all up quicker than just using manual.

Getting caught up in a game….you might wish to discuss that with Dr Mumford as he has hundreds and hundreds of stories he can share with you about nipping anxiety in the bud.

Keep it up!

Topic: Clear Keys

Guru,

Now onto my 3rd week of the keys and tomorrow (Thursday) i have my first lesson since being on them. I have mentioned it to the pro today what I’m doing and he is in favour but any suggestions for the lesson? Shall i stay on manual all the time?
I have been working hard on 32 ball drill to go to auto but I’m worried my brain will become too active after tomorrow’s lesson again!
So far to date i have had some success with a 3 over at Victoria last week (I’m off 5)but i also lost a matchplay game last Sunday and i got caught up in the game too much and anxious/nervous especially early on (i was 4 down) and my key wasn’t as effective as before.

What do you suggest in the lesson?

Topic: Clear Keys

Interesting thought XMX.

Of those who are in the “highly talented” category I often get comments like, “The Keys allow me to play to my best without the leaky boat shots.” I have always inferred from them that they realise they play to a higher standard shot by shot, rather than being lifted into another zone. But when you think about it, as confidence rises so does the level of precision on which they base their practice/games.

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I was trying to say that even someone as brilliant as TW can suffer a lapse of the sparkle and by using CKs, as I understand them, he’d have have less lapse (despite any personal drama) and more sparkle – they can work that well for all those playing golf, brilliant or not.

Perhaps CKs have the capacity to drive someone already brilliant into another zone all together – more than we mere mortals can’t even imagine and maybe lots more than TW has even shown us – what do you reckon Guru?

Topic: Clear Keys

Yet the insane have sometimes been called brilliant, words do not develop physical ability, nor do thoughts. Tiger will bounce back he has the advantage of knowing what it feels like to be great at our game. i do believe that tapping into the brain can accelerate learning or healing, thus relating to game improvement, but then we have time and experience, you can reaaly understand why these guys devote their life to understanding the brain…

Topic: Clear Keys

CKs came from Dr M. dealing with someone who could have been labeled insane. That is how deep they function. Short or rage, they will have some effect.

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I think that after his experience he is heavily depressed. I am amazed that he can perform at all.

From God to clod is a big fall and has to cut his ego to shreds.

I also wonder what level of sanity is reqired for CKs to work.

I am guessing if you can tee the ball up you are good.

Topic: Clear Keys

Tiger is emotionally drained right now dont CK would help him, i dont think anything can make life just move on, there must be a limit…...

Topic: Clear Keys

There’s no doubt in my mind that CKs work – esp for that 14 sec interval when tension can so easily ruin my game.

But earlier, this discussion had something to say about Tiger’s approach to the game via pure talent, mental imaging, positive outlook etc. Despite his different Style to others, his father’s intense psychology coaching commencing with the young child → adulthood, and Tiger’s recent performance at Quail Hollow, it shows that the man is not a machine and somewhere along the line, we’ve made some miscalculations about that. Whatever stands him apart from others is not singular or fixed immovably into his psyche but just like the rest of us, is embedded somewhere more superficial and can be affected by tension or angst.

CKs clearly have a place in the game for any of us who wish to eradicate those bad shot days despite our talent, expectations or goals.

cheers

Topic: Clear Keys

Whatever you use, it can be either as long as a 14 second ditty or an auto-loop of a shorter one. Just make sure that you learn it well enough to not have to think about the words – that causes the wrong bit of the mind to be active again.

The bingo one is used by a few meaty line-backer in the American football league! Would you dare laugh at them?!

Topic: Clear Keys

“go” is a no no. It’s a verb, will end up as a Trigger as a “do it now” word.

As silly as it sounds your mind knows its a ‘go’ right there and then….. trigger rather than Clearer.

You have started on a good road:) Just be wary of the speed bumps your mind can place in front of you.

Oops, i never realized that!

I did try the lamb and duck but it was too long and i forgot the words on that too!

I need something else for my practice in the week now and will look up Careys tips to find another.

Topic: Clear Keys

“go” is a no no. It’s a verb, will end up as a Trigger as a “do it now” word.

As silly as it sounds your mind knows its a ‘go’ right there and then….. trigger rather than Clearer.

You have started on a good road:) Just be wary of the speed bumps your mind can place in front of you.