Basic physics says that if a sphere is balanced on an edge at any point other than its very bottom then some part of it must be lower than the edge. Fine that the rule makers felt they had to put in a bit to cover a situation where the flag is on such a lean that only half the ball has made it past the edge but for practical purposes it would never happen.
Goldy wasn't attempting to quote the rule just explain its application.
But good that it's now been fully clarified - didn't need to insult everyone calling it misinformation - it's a discussion - itchy was asking for clarification
Weetbix, you seem somewhat reasonable with both the tone and content of your post. That's refreshing in here.
Itchy didn't just ask for 'clarification' though, he had to have a swipe, and that's when it escalated.
As you've now noted, a leaning flagstick can well have the bottom of the ball NOT below the surface of the green. That simple fact is no doubt why the rules were written with the precise wording. The 'discussion' was straight out misinformation, IMO.
So, users on here take offense to multiple posts and quotes around the same topic. OK, that's their problem. No need to start personal attacks.
I can see why new users do not stick around, and as it would seem, a lot register but do not post either (see new members and how many have 0 posts) - I guess they've read and seen how the 'group' responds and attacks, so think twice about offering their opinion. As I've posted, the moderators around here need to take a look at this 'self righteous' group mentality. I suspect the 'in' group on here are holding back the growth of this forum and what could otherwise be a wider group of users. I am surprised the owners of iseek, obviously a commercial business venture, have not realised the impact and taken action to stop it.