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#31 VLAD

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 11:51 AM

Match index is standard and doesn't change per the course.

Thanks, I never knew that. :)

Shows I've never played much matchplay format.


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Posted 06 June 2018 - 06:04 PM

the weird table on the back is probably the Match Index...

is hole 1 rated 18?
 

 

Ah ... No.

 

Front of the card, with hole index:

 

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Back of card, with the 'other' Strokes Given 'table':

 

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 06:08 PM

If it is, Iam surprised -  1st @ Ocean Shores is not the easiest in my experience..

 

According to index rating it's 4th easiest.

 

The par 4 16th is the index 1 hole, for the men.


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Posted 06 June 2018 - 07:49 PM

Ah ... No.

Front of the card, with hole index:

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Back of card, with the 'other' Strokes Given 'table':

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The one on the back of the card is the matchplay index.

You get a shot on the first hole if you’re getting 18 shots in matchplay.
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Posted 06 June 2018 - 08:23 PM

Agree with Goldy.

Match play index on the back.

If you're playing off anything higher than 18, the index starts again. Ie if you play off 22, you get 2 shots on holes indexed 1-4.
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Posted 06 June 2018 - 08:30 PM

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 10:40 PM

Match index is standard and doesn't change per the course.

Sorry Deege but wrong, the international match-play index is used by alot of clubs that cbf'd to rate their courses properly. Most of the older clubs have their own match-play index which has been in place for up to a hundred years !

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Posted 06 June 2018 - 10:43 PM

Ah ... No.
 
Front of the card, with hole index:
 
attachicon.gifScorecare.jpg
 
Back of card, with the 'other' Strokes Given 'table':
 
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Yes, match play index.
If your playing handicap is 3 less than your opponent, you allow him a stroke on holes 8, 12 & 4.
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Posted 07 June 2018 - 06:36 AM

Sorry Deege but wrong, the international match-play index is used by alot of clubs that cbf'd to rate their courses properly. Most of the older clubs have their own match-play index which has been in place for up to a hundred years !
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I'm curious, how does a club go about the process of rating their matchplay index?
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Posted 07 June 2018 - 08:54 AM

The one on the back of the card is the matchplay index.

You get a shot on the first hole if you’re getting 18 shots in matchplay.

 

OK.

 

Yes, match play index.
If your playing handicap is 3 less than your opponent, you allow him a stroke on holes 8, 12 & 4.

 

Thanks.

 

NOTE: I think I'll stick to recording my results off the stick, and aim for Par on every hole. I doubt I'll be in a match play any time soon.

 

But, thanks for the info and clarification fellas.



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Posted 07 June 2018 - 03:37 PM

I'm curious, how does a club go about the process of rating their matchplay index?

 

The match play index is set by Golf Australia.

 

That's not to say that all matches are played using the standard index.  Under the conditions of competition, it may be specified that the standard stroke index for the course, or some other index, is used.  Pennant matches in my district are all played on the one course for that day (actually two courses but that's irrelevant) with a shotgun start.  If done properly, they would prepare 18 match indexes to use, depending on which hole you started.  But that's too complicated for them so the course's stroke index is used.

 

If your match starts on the 10th hole, the standard match index is offset by 9 holes. So the first stroke given is on the 17th hole (8th hole played), then the 3rd (12th hole played), etc.



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Posted 07 June 2018 - 03:41 PM

The match play index is set by Golf Australia.

 

That's not to say that all matches are played using the standard index.  Under the conditions of competition, it may be specified that the standard stroke index for the course, or some other index, is used.  Pennant matches in my district are all played on the one course for that day (actually two courses but that's irrelevant) with a shotgun start.  If done properly, they would prepare 18 match indexes to use, depending on which hole you started.  But that's too complicated for them so the course's stroke index is used.

 

If your match starts on the 10th hole, the standard match index is offset by 9 holes. So the first stroke given is on the 17th hole (8th hole played), then the 3rd (12th hole played), etc.

noted, but none of that answers my question to Jon about how these special clubs go about rating their holes in a way that works better for a match play than the standard match index. 


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Posted 07 June 2018 - 03:59 PM

noted, but none of that answers my question to Jon about how these special clubs go about rating their holes in a way that works better for a match play than the standard match index. 

 

Most don't. But they could.

 

How would they go about it if they were to make up their own?  Any way they like.

The important thing is to spread the holes on which strokes are given over the whole of the course in a fairly even manner.  Some might want to avoid giving strokes on par 3s for most matches.  i.e. give high index numbers to them so strokes are only given on them if there's a wide disparity in the relevant handicaps.  Similarly, longer par 5s may attract low index numbers.



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Posted 07 June 2018 - 04:00 PM

Scratch match play or fark off.

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Posted 07 June 2018 - 04:12 PM

Most don't. But they could.

 

How would they go about it if they were to make up their own?  Any way they like.

The important thing is to spread the holes on which strokes are given over the whole of the course in a fairly even manner.  Some might want to avoid giving strokes on par 3s for most matches.  i.e. give high index numbers to them so strokes are only given on them if there's a wide disparity in the relevant handicaps.  Similarly, longer par 5s may attract low index numbers.

again, noted, but none of that answers my question to Jon about how these special clubs go about rating their holes in a way that works better for a match play than the standard match index. 


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