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#1 Goldy

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Posted 04 April 2018 - 05:36 PM

I see these will be available next month...at the princely cost of $1399!

 

So...you need to first of all have a golf buggy that they fit...let's say a Clicgear...and then buy the wheels to power the buggy.

 

Around $350 for the buggy...ok, you've probably already forked out the ponies for this...and another $1400 for the wheels. I think all up a new MGI is less than this.

 

Is it just me, or is the business model a tad flawed?

 

Love the concept...struggling with the economics.


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Posted 04 April 2018 - 05:45 PM

I thought the eWheels were pricey and they are around $800.

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Posted 04 April 2018 - 05:47 PM

I thought the eWheels were pricey and they are around $800.

 

And you'd be right.

 

I reckon if they did the wheels for roughly the price of a lithium battery, say $500, then there'd be a market.

 

At $1400, I reckon they're trying to recover the R&D in the first 100 sales.


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Posted 04 April 2018 - 05:50 PM

Do they float?
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Posted 04 April 2018 - 05:52 PM

We all float down here, Georgie.


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Posted 04 April 2018 - 06:00 PM

Yeah price is too high initially but great concept.  You're taking the risk of the new technology but without a major initial benefit.  They probably don't have an investor with deep enough pockets to run it at a lower price and then with the sales get economies of scale. 


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Posted 04 April 2018 - 06:19 PM

They've certainly positioned themselves at the pointy end of the market. Even their fairly basic buggy, which is very light and space efficient, is right up there pricing-wise.

 

In a market where traditionally the major percentage of buyers are tight-arse pensioners-or-about-to-be with cat, I struggle to see how their pricing strategy will ultimately reap the benefit they would hope for.


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Posted 04 April 2018 - 06:34 PM

$1400 is pretty steep, and just like their Concourse Buggy and Bag combo, I dont think that they priced it right to sell.

Goldy is correct that the market is a bunch of tightarsed, garage murdering cat owners.

But, there are slight differences compared to your MGI's of the world.

For the same price, they are:
Lighter - so easier to get in and out of the car, irrespective of whether its parked hard up against a garage door.
Don't look like the motorised buggies that are on the market.
Probably only enough juice to get through 1 round.
Most guys would already own a buggy of some sort, so the $350 component is a sunk cost for a significant portion of potential purchasers.

$6-800 price point would win more people over, just not sure if this would be financially viable for them.
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Posted 04 April 2018 - 06:37 PM

Totally flawed pricing strategy. I was quite enamoured with their ambassador. However, that shrunk rapidly when I saw the $1399 price.

For untested technology they could get away with $800 and creep up to $1000 getting my interest.

Probably a great concept for wheelchairs and I can see the Brighton Mothers driving their children's prams under cars. For "tight-arsed golfers", and who isn't, it is a dead duck.
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Posted 05 April 2018 - 09:23 AM

Lighter - so easier to get in and out of the car, irrespective of whether its parked hard up against a garage door.
 

 

So just checked that. Concourse wheels are 4KG per wheel. Add that to the weight of a clicgear, lets call it 5KG (without the wheels) and that brings it to 13KG.

 

Which is the same weight as an MGI navigator.


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Posted 05 April 2018 - 10:12 AM

same here....was very much interested after i saw the product ....

they are being very unrealistic with the pricing though.....you'd want to incentivise the early adopters to spread the word rather than make the entry price so high.....


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Posted 05 April 2018 - 10:24 AM

So just checked that. Concourse wheels are 4KG per wheel. Add that to the weight of a clicgear, lets call it 5KG (without the wheels) and that brings it to 13KG.
 
Which is the same weight as an MGI navigator.


Pretty sure that you have to disconnect the wheels from the buggy for storage so at most you will be lifting 10kg for both wheels.
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Posted 05 April 2018 - 12:37 PM

if I can still fold up my 3.5 the same way and size, this would be much better option then the S7 I have which I need to take the wheels off to fit in my car.

 

Wonder how much the batteries would be to replace.



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Posted 05 April 2018 - 02:35 PM

if I can still fold up my 3.5 the same way and size, this would be much better option then the S7 I have which I need to take the wheels off to fit in my car.

 

Wonder how much the batteries would be to replace.

 

The newer motorised buggies all fold up pretty small these days but i guess that is a good benefit to this version.

 

I did wonder about the batteries - they look to be integrated in to the design of the wheel so possibly if the batteries start to go you'd be up for buying a whole new wheel.


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Posted 05 April 2018 - 02:44 PM

hmmm.... that would be a shame if it is a "disposable" unit at $1300; 

Unless it is a "must bring to supplier to replace" like an Iphone at a mark up price... which would be a PIA too... 


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