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#1 Henschke

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 06:51 PM

Does anyone know who is in charge of slope ratings & what the criteria is in deciding the ratings?

 



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Posted 12 March 2018 - 06:55 PM

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 07:48 PM

I think there were designated teams who went around and did them based on Golf Australia criteria
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Posted 12 March 2018 - 07:58 PM

Stupidly they were based subjective measures. So Royal Melbourne is a relatively easy course as it's not long. No consideration for the bunkering or the difficulty of the greens.

Totally inept process.
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Posted 13 March 2018 - 09:02 AM

Does anyone know who is in charge of slope ratings & what the criteria is in deciding the ratings?

 

I was a committee member when my previous course got rated by Golf Aus and went around with the rating team explaining how the course plays. There was a folder about 4 inches thick of things to take into consideration. But a few of the things including landing zones, hazards ie. bunkering at prescribed distances for a 18 h'capper and scratch golfer. Size of greens, elevation of greens, greenside bunkering, aerial hazards ie. trees etc.

 

If the hazards are placed at the prescribed length of the 18 h'capper and not in play for the scratch golfer the slope rating will be higher. 

 

What people forget is that the slope rating is not a measure of course difficulty it is the difference between how a 18 h'capper and scratch marker play the course. Our course was quite short and not particularly hard but because of shoots, aerial hazards (lots of trees on course), narrow fairways and small raised greens the algorithm came up with that it was considerably easier for a scratch golfer than an 18 h'capper and came out with a relatively high slope rating.

 

By that token if you designed a championship layer with the hazards in the prescribed distance for the scratch golfer (can't remember the distances) you could have a very difficult course with a very low slope rating.


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Posted 13 March 2018 - 09:31 AM

Stupidly they were based subjective measures. So Royal Melbourne is a relatively easy course as it's not long. No consideration for the bunkering or the difficulty of the greens.

Totally inept process.

 

West Course- Blue Men Par72 Scratch 72 Slope 131

East Course- Blue Men Par71 Scratch 72 Slope 135

Seems pretty standard for a proper course to me, where is the problem? 



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Posted 13 March 2018 - 03:45 PM

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 04:47 PM

I only get 4 extra shots...

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 05:38 PM

Does anyone know who is in charge of slope ratings & what the criteria is in deciding the ratings?

 

The slope ratings are done under the auspices of Golf Australia and your local state golf Authority, In my case Golf Vic and done under the guidelines of USGA.

 

Why are you asking about the slopes ratings ?

 

Does your club need to re rate the slope of the course?

 

the individual hole ratings are determined by the club, based on scores recorded from members cards.


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Posted 13 March 2018 - 06:13 PM

Stupidly they were based subjective measures. So Royal Melbourne is a relatively easy course as it's not long. No consideration for the bunkering or the difficulty of the greens.

Totally inept process.

 

Agree, our club captain went out with the 2 "assessors" and noted that they didn't actually play the course but simply took measurements, made notes of various aspects of the course. After about 4 or 5 holes the captain said "what about the wind?"

We rarely get a calm day because we're a links course on the coast in a very windy part of the country.

Their answer..."oh, the wind isn't a factor"

I would love to have these 2 blokes out here when you have to flush 3 drivers to get near some of the par 5's and then ask them about the wind not being a factor.


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Posted 14 March 2018 - 09:13 AM

Stupidly they were based subjective measures. So Royal Melbourne is a relatively easy course as it's not long. No consideration for the bunkering or the difficulty of the greens.

Totally inept process.

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Why do you believe your course should have a slope rating lower than 130.?

 given that most of par 4 holes had a fwy bunker or water (2,3,4,7,8,10,13,17) which comes into play...


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Posted 14 March 2018 - 05:28 PM

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Why do you believe your course should have a slope rating lower than 130.?
 given that most of par 4 holes had a fwy bunker or water (2,3,4,7,8,10,13,17) which comes into play...

Very few are in play for the scratch golfer plus the greens are flat.
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Posted 14 March 2018 - 06:01 PM

If bunkers are not in play for the scratch golfer then the course is probably relatively more difficult for the 18 marker and therefore the slope rating will be higher.

 

If the green are flatter then the scratch golfer will likely  sink more putts ... the 18 handicapper will not because he is relatively still a spud, and this will also mean that the course will have a higher slope rating.


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Posted 14 March 2018 - 06:18 PM

 the 18 handicapper will not because he is relatively still a spud,

 

2P, have you been stalking me? :huh:
 

 



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Posted 14 March 2018 - 06:19 PM

2P, have you been stalking me? :huh:
 

 

stalking myself... my putting sucks  ;) 


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