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#16 golfguy33

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 07:16 PM

Gardners Run is a good example. Find out who did that.

GR is the perfect course if you just want to feather your handicap and bring it down 25%, will create a real sense of achievement without having to do much to your game. 

One of the easiest rated courses in Vic. if not the whole country !

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 07:18 PM

GR is the perfect course if you just want to feather your handicap and bring it down 25%, will create a real sense of achievement without having to do much to your game. 
One of the easiest rated courses in Vic. if not the whole country !
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Posted 05 March 2018 - 07:26 PM

Is that where *mouldy plays??


Very harsh son. I play at Keysborough which just sneaks into Australia's top 100 but is significantly better than many above it. Especially, in terms of conditioning.
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Posted 05 March 2018 - 08:06 PM

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 08:49 PM

Very harsh son. I play at Keysborough which just sneaks into Australia's top 100 but is significantly better than many above it. Especially, in terms of conditioning.

Except for the 7th green complex which remains a problem according to the majority of members ?

 

Some interesting rumors being floated about KGC and it's move or lack of by this coming Xmas.

Seems the planning of a revamp of the mens and womens locker rooms, as well as the proshop with an upgrade to the current members lounge and bar have been more than just small talk, lately !

 

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 10:42 PM

Except for the 7th green complex which remains a problem according to the majority of members ?
 
Some interesting rumors being floated about KGC and it's move or lack of by this coming Xmas.
Seems the planning of a revamp of the mens and womens locker rooms, as well as the proshop with an upgrade to the current members lounge and bar have been more than just small talk, lately !
 
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That sounds great. Would find it hard to find any members who want to move.
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Posted 06 March 2018 - 05:29 PM

I'll offer an out of left field idea

How about a course that has a scratch rating of par off the whites but a slope of 100 - so it's easy for the higher handicappers relative to the low cappers - and a good challenge for the low cappers

Marrickville in Sydney. Par 60, Scratch rating 60, slope 99.

 

edit: I just noticed Randwick in Sydney and Russell Vale south of Sydney Par 59, Scr Rtg 60, slope 93.

 They are tough courses for good players but easy for the choppers.


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Posted 06 March 2018 - 05:46 PM

Marrickville in Sydney. Par 60, Scratch rating 60, slope 99.

edit: I just noticed Randwick in Sydney and Russell Vale south of Sydney Par 59, Scr Rtg 60, slope 93.
They are tough courses for good players but easy for the choppers.


Could you make a par 71-72 in the same vein?
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Posted 06 March 2018 - 07:48 PM

Could you make a par 71-72 in the same vein?

I'm sure you could if you wanted to but it would be contrived. Just put all the hazards at good player yardages and have it wide open where the choppers hit.

 Of course, the short courses with no par 5's and heaps of par 3's make life more difficult for the good player to score well, hence Marrickville, Randwick etc having a low slope whilst having a solid scratch rating.


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Posted 06 March 2018 - 08:38 PM

I'm sure you could if you wanted to but it would be contrived. Just put all the hazards at good player yardages and have it wide open where the choppers hit.

 Of course, the short courses with no par 5's and heaps of par 3's make life more difficult for the good player to score well, hence Marrickville, Randwick etc having a low slope whilst having a solid scratch rating.

I don't think that is the solution as a lot of choppers are hitting their second shot where the hazard would be for the long hitters. I think it is about keeping the ground firm and rewarding the player who plays the right line regardless of how far they hit it and not overdoing it with bunkers, trees and forced carries. A long hitter shouldn't be able to carry the ball 260m and have the ball stop within 5m or 10m of where it landed. And a short hitter should be able to get more than 10m or 15m of run. If a player is on the wrong side of the green for where the pin is their ball should run to the other side or off the green. If a player is on the wrong side of the fairway for where the pin is they should have a hard time getting it near the pin. Some of the good clubs do this as standard maintenance but many clubs are bowing to the complaints of members who think they should be able to attack the pin from anywhere on the course. A lot of golfers also think that golf courses should be lush like a botanical garden but many of the best sporting surfaces are firmer and drier. I also find that many golfers confuse the firmness of a green with the speed of the green. They don't have to be the same thing and you can have a firm green that rewards the right line of play yet still doesn't have the choppers putting off the green.

I would only look at engaging a golf architect if the club has the continued resources to maintain the course in a way that honours the design.



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Posted 06 March 2018 - 09:43 PM

Is the superintendent Involved in the decisions like tree planting, and tree management program. Pres, Greens director and I drove round in carts assed tree issues and had the front nine selectively trimmed to ensure course integrity was retained.
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Posted 07 March 2018 - 09:33 PM

GR is the perfect course if you just want to feather your handicap and bring it down 25%, will create a real sense of achievement without having to do much to your game.
One of the easiest rated courses in Vic. if not the whole country !
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Well I thought that was the point of the OP?
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