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#16 BumpunRun

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 02:05 PM

Thanks for externalising but what do you really think?

I don't, we elect people to do the thinking for us


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Posted 23 January 2018 - 03:34 PM

Kids are raised now so everybody gets a participation ribbon, winning is no longer as important. Once you have your snout firmly in the PGA trough with the riches everybody can be a winner.

 

In times gone by the 102 best player would be lucky to make a living, last year they made a lazy million not to mention endorsement and sponsorship deals. 

 

Most now come from the pampered college team system.

 

That was not the case in the past when it was generally you and your coaches hard work alone that got you there. Many could not even afford coach. That breeds a competitive spirit.

 

Go to the lesser tours where the trough is not so deep and you will see competition.


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Posted 23 January 2018 - 03:56 PM

As Shanks opined, a hefty bank balance tends to blunt the competitive spirit, so really the pressure on the guys at the very top isn't as great, so they can indeed survive quite comfortably and in a relaxed and chatty fashion on course these days. 

 

A Lee Trevino quote ...... "You don't know what pressure is until you've played for $5 a hole with only $2 in your pocket." ......... I reckon that would have been one of his less chatty rounds.... ;)


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Posted 23 January 2018 - 04:45 PM

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 06:09 PM

These young guys are trying to beat each other with their golf but they're not trying to get under each others skin. Jiminez beat Bradley in the match play by giving him the shits and Tiger had Sergio's measure before they even teed off. Seve used to walk around his opponent before they played a shot just to make sure they knew he was there. I don't think there is much gamesmanship at the moment. Patrick Reed antagonises the crowd in Ryder Cup but I don't know if he targets his opponent. 

Tony D'Annunzio tried to put off Danny Noonan by yelling miss it as he was putting. 


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Posted 23 January 2018 - 07:21 PM

I think the way sponsors perceive what their target market wants and how the media looks at players behaviors has changed. Mr Nice guy is much more marketable now. If you are perceived to be an arsehole will you get as many endorsement deals? Especially with family value type companies. Are players just over coached now to the point where they are so pc they don't even give real answers for fear of ticking off someone who might provide them with a pay cheque later on? At least DJ brings his hot missus to some games and walks around displaying his babies arm holding an apple, but, no real characters. Even Sergio has mellowed, he used to be good for a shoe throw or a club snap.


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Posted 23 January 2018 - 08:02 PM

I did a Tony D'Annunzio on the weekend. I whispered though which still got me a tut tut from my opponents playing partner. He made the putt because he is a competitive animal :D
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Posted 23 January 2018 - 08:05 PM

 

 

Speith a few years ago at Aus Open looked like he was just going through the motions of being in the event, didn't have that killer edge to win at all costs.  Day a couple years ago had a similar attitude about winning at all costs.

 

Not sure I would look at the Aust Open as a barometer of competiveness.

 

It's a paid holiday for Day (when he chooses to front) and Spieth.

 

These young blokes go hard when the event matters, Curtis is sounding like Neil Harvey.


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Posted 23 January 2018 - 09:03 PM

Not sure I would look at the Aust Open as a barometer of competiveness.

It's a paid holiday for Day (when he chooses to front) and Spieth.

These young blokes go hard when the event matters, Curtis is sounding like Neil Harvey.

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 11:21 PM

Speith was fairly serious about his 1st Australian Open. Dunno about Rory though.

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Posted 24 January 2018 - 06:41 PM

Tiger used his aggressive silence as a weapon. Trevino similarly used his verbosity. The current crop don't seem to have Tiger's style and I wouldn't think they should try and fake it to make Curtis proud.

I believe Hogan was a very intense and intimidating figure during the round, but Arnold wasn't and I don't think Jack was either. Although I don't think Jack was chatty.

So for me it's about each players individual style

 

From personal observations of Curtis at several events in the US, he came across as the consummate arrsehole that most pros on the Tour considered him to be. As big a dink as that other US Open winner, Hale Irwin.

 

As for Jack, look up the old baby blues quote by Tom Weiskopf about Jack knowing he could beat you, you knew he could beat you, and he knew they you knew that he could beat you......he imtimidated with his play. 


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Posted 24 January 2018 - 07:53 PM

Blokes name is Curtis Strange. There was never any hope of him being anything other than a weird *****
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