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#1 Madam

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 10:43 AM

A bit of chatter happening from Curtis Strange about how he thinks players are too friendly to each other- especially when in a competitive situation.

 

Strange isn't the first to bring up the issue of too-friendly Tour pros. In fact, it's come up several times in the past years as Tiger Woods has struggled to stay healthy and a younger generation of pros — many of whom are friends on and off the links — have taken center stage.

But, according to a 2011 interview with GOLF, just because Strange doesn't agree with how players interact between the ropes doesn't mean he thinks this generation is softer than his.

"I think Dustin Johnson is a tough guy, an athlete," he said in the interview. "I think there are a lot of them. You know, I would never say that my generation was any different than the other generations. We're kind of made up of our environment. I think they're plenty tough out there."

And, to further punctuate Strange's thoughts about interacting with opponents, you might remember the 1988 U.S. Open, the first of Strange's two straight, in which he defeated Nick Faldo in an 18-hole playoff at The Country Club in Brookline, Mass.

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Many of the younger players are very good mates off the courses, hanging out during Spring Break partying etc.

 

Does this take the competitive edge off them? Especially when they may end up on the line with a big event?


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Posted 23 January 2018 - 10:49 AM

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 11:17 AM

Yeah, I'm sure they all walk up the 18th on the last day of a tournament and look at the scoreboard and go... "Geez if I have  a double here, Ricky can win.  I guess he could do with the cash and I did win two tourneys ago.  I'll just plonk this one short in the water."   What a load of crap.  I'm not a Pro's butt plug, but I can't imagine they give a flying fig while they are playing a tournament.  They want the win as much as anyone else.  As for Curtis, he probably feels that way cause he used to piss off so many of his playing partners and others with his unwarranted comments.


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Posted 23 January 2018 - 11:23 AM

Look at brothers in sport when they compete...no love lost on the field.


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Posted 23 January 2018 - 11:47 AM

so it umm, looks like that the general concensus so far is that we generally disagree with what that fella has said.

 

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 11:54 AM

the Sinatra's are family friends


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Posted 23 January 2018 - 11:57 AM

Yeah, I'm sure they all walk up the 18th on the last day of a tournament and look at the scoreboard and go... "Geez if I have  a double here, Ricky can win.  I guess he could do with the cash and I did win two tourneys ago.  I'll just plonk this one short in the water."   What a load of crap.  I'm not a Pro's butt plug, but I can't imagine they give a flying fig while they are playing a tournament.  They want the win as much as anyone else.  As for Curtis, he probably feels that way cause he used to piss off so many of his playing partners and others with his unwarranted comments.

 

Look at brothers in sport when they compete...no love lost on the field.

 

the Sinatra's are family friends

 

so it umm, looks like that the general concensus so far is that we generally disagree with what that fella has said.

 

ISG Mafia in action again

 

 

Tiger had a killer edge to him which worked to his advantage many times.  Yes I understand players who are friends will not let the other win because they agree a friend of theirs but is that real edge missing in this generation of young golfers?

 

Speith a few years ago at Aus Open looked like he was just going through the emotions of being in the event, didnt have that killer edge to win at all costs.  Day a couple years ago had a similar attitude about winning at all costs.


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Posted 23 January 2018 - 12:00 PM

Time to mention Bernard Tomic?


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Posted 23 January 2018 - 12:15 PM

Yeah, I'm sure they all walk up the 18th on the last day of a tournament and look at the scoreboard and go... "Geez if I have a double here, Ricky can win. I guess he could do with the cash and I did win two tourneys ago. I'll just plonk this one short in the water." What a load of crap. I'm not a Pro's butt plug, but I can't imagine they give a flying fig while they are playing a tournament. They want the win as much as anyone else. As for Curtis, he probably feels that way cause he used to piss off so many of his playing partners and others with his unwarranted comments.


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Posted 23 January 2018 - 12:17 PM

These guys didn't get where they are without being super competitive - being friends won't change that

Speith and Day maybe looking like they're going through the emotions would be more about their care factor for the particular tournaments - they're focussed on the big ones not the Aussie ones

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 12:49 PM

What makes the difference between top 20 player and top 100 player? I would hazard a guess and say mental toughness. The skills and ability might be the same but when it comes time knuckle down and shut out the outside influences that’s where the mental toughness is required. Sports psychologists would be working with the players to show them techniques to focus on what is required and if that is to chat between shots but as soon as they approach the ball they shut everything out and hit the ball.
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Posted 23 January 2018 - 01:17 PM

Tiger used his aggressive silence as a weapon. Trevino similarly used his verbosity. The current crop don't seem to have Tiger's style and I wouldn't think they should try and fake it to make Curtis proud.

I believe Hogan was a very intense and intimidating figure during the round, but Arnold wasn't and I don't think Jack was either. Although I don't think Jack was chatty.

So for me it's about each players individual style
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Posted 23 January 2018 - 01:18 PM

I wonder how Trevino would have handled Tiger?

May have driven him crazy talking and wiped the floor with him - who knows?
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Posted 23 January 2018 - 01:30 PM

Tiger had a killer edge to him which worked to his advantage many times.  Yes I understand players who are friends will not let the other win because they agree a friend of theirs but is that real edge missing in this generation of young golfers?

 

Speith a few years ago at Aus Open looked like he was just going through the emotions of being in the event, didnt have that killer edge to win at all costs.  Day a couple years ago had a similar attitude about winning at all costs.

were they externalising their thoughts about just being happy to compete with their mates or is that how we've perceived it in hindsight?

does killer instinct need to look like powerful emotionless robots in the zone? 

 

I would use Ricky as an example, he's got his instragram and his clothes and fancy shiit like that, but is that the same person who pegs it up Thursday through to Sunday?

 

just some thoughts about externalising and being able to flick the switch or turn on the tap... 


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Posted 23 January 2018 - 01:56 PM

were they externalising their thoughts about just being happy to compete with their mates or is that how we've perceived it in hindsight?

does killer instinct need to look like powerful emotionless robots in the zone? 

 

I would use Ricky as an example, he's got his instragram and his clothes and fancy shiit like that, but is that the same person who pegs it up Thursday through to Sunday?

 

just some thoughts about externalising and being able to flick the switch or turn on the tap... 

Thanks for externalising but what do you really think?


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