Jump to content


 

Photo

Australia Day

Aboriginal date change

  • Please log in to reply
121 replies to this topic

#16 Itchy4Scratch

Itchy4Scratch

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 5543 posts
  • LocationSE Melbourne

Posted 17 January 2018 - 11:08 AM

oh dear....

 

that link has been shortcutted to say 

greens org au    slander peoples 

 

not sure that is where they want to be heading 

That is quality 



#17 Itchy4Scratch

Itchy4Scratch

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 5543 posts
  • LocationSE Melbourne

Posted 17 January 2018 - 11:52 AM

itchy  i get google can help these things.

 

but does changing Australia day help these matters  become a country where we are all as one?

 

I get  that aboriginals in the past lifetime before you or I was around (well i was around but just a young whippersnapper) in the early 70's wether this was for the good of the children or not, was treated poorly and i think since those days  the majority of Australians have realised we have mistreated them

 

today more things are happening to help the aborigionals get back within the community from all sides of government..

 

Changing  a date  is not going to solve an issue that is dating back to 1788..

 

councils are not wanting to celebrate this but still want the funds from the day  and like i said i bet these councils who do not wish to celebrate Australia day still take the public holiday

 

the think is we all want the public holiday but we want to get rid of australia day or put it on another date of no signifigance 

 

There is far more issues in our govt to worry about then changing a public holiday that may offend a minority group   both state and federal govts have to start governing australia before  going down this path

I agree it won't do much Oz, but you asked what the Greens policies were on Aboriginal issues and the link provides you with that info. Just because they also want to change Australia day doesn't mean they don't have a position on other more important issues that affect indigenous people.

The current date has absolutely no significance to me and the majority of Australians so as I said in my initial post, I don't care if it is changed. If changing it helps people feel like they are more welcome and included in our society then that's a good thing. 

It seems like what you're saying is that because we can't or won't fix every problem with Aboriginal communities immediately, we shouldn't do anything at all, which I don't think is a very good way to look at anything in life. 



#18 OldBogey

OldBogey

    Defining and analysing humour is a pastime of humourless people

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 23910 posts
  • LocationRegional Victoria

Posted 17 January 2018 - 11:57 AM

In this case you should have no objections to the date being changed.

 

I don't have a real objection, I just see it as pointless because it doesn't help anybody.  It certainly doesn't help the aboriginals improve their lot in life.

 

What if we changed it to July 4?  We could do with a public holiday in that part of the year, although that's the middle of winter.

 

The queen's birthday isn't celebrated on her birthday either, is it?

 

Labour Day is different in every state.

 

Someone mentioned us becoming a republic.  Do we combine Australia Day and queen's Birthday into one or, better yet, make it a 4 day long weekend 'Independence Holiday'?


  • Madam likes this

#19 OldBogey

OldBogey

    Defining and analysing humour is a pastime of humourless people

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 23910 posts
  • LocationRegional Victoria

Posted 17 January 2018 - 12:00 PM

Perhaps 'Thanksgiving' might be better term, except for the yankee connotations.



#20 VLAD

VLAD

    Non-Playing Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1107 posts
  • LocationPart time Hacker. Hunting MOOSE

Posted 17 January 2018 - 12:10 PM

I'm still coming to terms with OB watching that left wing soft soap 'the project' !

 

Maybe just to catch up with Pricey?


  • Francie likes this

Country golfer on a City course.
Hacker in more ways than one.
Penetration specialist, can cause some people to be nervous.

 

Uruguay? next on my list 

 

I can do no wrong.
 
 


#21 BarnEsy05

BarnEsy05

    Holing It Out

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 31311 posts
  • LocationChopperville

Posted 17 January 2018 - 12:20 PM

Speaking for those whoes voices cannot be heard, the bastard Greens should change their party name...I'm sure it has an emotional effect on Martians, or coloured vegetables at the very least.


A

 

DON'T LET THE BLACK DOG WIN...

 

HELP IS OUT THERE

 
 
5 Time ISG NSW WBT Winner

2013 ISG NSW WBT COC Runner Up

2015 ISG NSW WBT COC

2nd ISG NSW Life Member Inductee...Got Had a Jacket to Prove It

2012 ISG National Championships...Inaugural Supreme Putting Champion

2013 ISG National Championships...3rd Place 2nd Round - Moonah Links

2013 ISG National Championships...13th place...now that's desperately unlucky

2014 ISG National Championships...13th place...no other golfer could be that desperately unlucky 2 years in a row!

2015 ISG National Championships...21st place...that's farked

2016 ISG National Championships...waaaaay down the list.

2016 ISG National Championships...2nd place Yarra Yarra Satellite Game 

2016 ISG National Championships...2nd place Huntingdale Satellite Game

2016 ISG National Championships...Captain of winning NSW Team, SOO

2017 ISG National Championships...12th place...heading in the right direction

2017 ISG National Championships...Winner The Lakes Satellite Game 43pts

2013 Brass Yacht Winner (Inaugural)

2014 Brass Yacht Winner

2015 Brass Yacht Runner-up

2016 Brass Yacht Winner

2017 Brass Yacht Winner

 

 

HOLE IN ONE

2017 ISG NATIONALS ROUND 2 RIVERSIDE OAKS 17TH HOLE BUNGOOL COURSE FIRST SHOT OF THE DAY (SHOTGUN START)

 

Life Motto: "If it's free, it's for me!"

 

 

 

 

Team Live4BarnEsy...forever undefeated angel-2-smiley-emoticon.gif

 
Desperately Unlucky ©


#22 Can Break 80

Can Break 80

    metronome

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 8998 posts

Posted 17 January 2018 - 12:34 PM

No doubt we will see more pc pandering to minority groups by our politicians until we can't celebrate anything anymore for fear of offending some group or another.

 

What next? Lets cancel christmas, it might offend the muslim minority, Easter? Gone. 

 

1. Daniel Andrews day in Victoria will go when he is not reelected (sadly so will our iSG golf day)

 

2. Melbourne cup day - because Animal groups consider this to be cruelty to horses

 

3 Queens birthday - when queen is no longer on throne and if we become a republic.

 

4 Anzac day - because it offends the Japanese , Turks and Germans

 

5. Labour day brought in to celebrate the 40 hour week because no one works 35 hours any more. most SMO work more.

 

6 New years day - because Chinese new year starts later.

 

That should eliminate all the public holidays.


2017 OOM winner at Growling Frog.

2016 A grade winner Moonah legends OOM4.

2015 member of team Vision winners of SGC pennant.

2014 National ISG champion

2014 winner Kooindah waters

2014 winner Magenta shores


2014 first ever hole in 1 in an ISG event, 4th Hole Kooindah waters 19th October

2012 winner of BHIC and gaining a 5 year exemption


#23 Snappy McSnapperton

Snappy McSnapperton

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1768 posts

Posted 17 January 2018 - 12:41 PM

This feeds into the issue of people banning things for being offensive.  It doesn't make the issue go away, it just means people aren't educated about it, and get even more upset when they finally learn about it.  You don't solve issues by shying away from them. 

 

Use Jan 26 as a chance to educate, and the majority of the population who then are aware of the history, to support concrete changes, like recognition in the constitution. 


  • Can Break 80 and RobNewy like this

If I can win an OOM anyone can. 
 
http://www.golflink....k_no=3012646041

 

 


#24 ozdevil

ozdevil

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 6827 posts
  • Locationbacchus marsh

Posted 17 January 2018 - 01:23 PM

it is interesting really   we say on Australia day it was when Phillip  and his fleet  had invaded New south Wales  or some would say colonised

 

however it wasnt Phillip and his fleet that did any invading it was infact the aborigionals that struck the first blow. rightfully or wrongly  it happened

 

on december 31/12/1788 - Because the Aboriginal Australians could not be coaxed into the settlement, one named Arabanoo was captured and held in confinement. Phillip hoped to learn his language and so to promote good relations between Aboriginal Australians and Europeans.

 

 

So i wonder was there really an invasion if Phillip  was to welcome  aboriginals  


Edited by ozdevil, 17 January 2018 - 01:24 PM.

I AM ALWAYS FORCED TO DO SH1T I'M NOT QUALIFIED FOR. LIKE BEING NICE TO BLOODY ID1OTS :P :D

golflink # http://www.golflink....k_no=3040204492

#25 Itchy4Scratch

Itchy4Scratch

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 5543 posts
  • LocationSE Melbourne

Posted 17 January 2018 - 01:29 PM

Yeah the first fleet full of convicts just came all this way for a cup of tea and we've all just misunderstood their intentions. 


  • Goldy, Snappy McSnapperton and VLAD like this

#26 VLAD

VLAD

    Non-Playing Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1107 posts
  • LocationPart time Hacker. Hunting MOOSE

Posted 17 January 2018 - 02:00 PM

Same in India, just ducked out for a curry


  • Itchy4Scratch likes this

Country golfer on a City course.
Hacker in more ways than one.
Penetration specialist, can cause some people to be nervous.

 

Uruguay? next on my list 

 

I can do no wrong.
 
 


#27 iRON MiCK

iRON MiCK

    Moss Effect

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 13324 posts
  • Locationwww.iseekgolf.com

Posted 17 January 2018 - 02:33 PM

Google helps for these things Oz.


https://greens.org.a...slander-peoples

Thanks great post and link. Hopefully your generation can get this sorted.

18.4 by Dec. 2018

 

2018 Keysborough GC Gala Team Event Winner

2017 VIC ISG OOM Overall Winner

2017 VIC OOM #5 Gardiners Run Overall Winner

http://www.golf.org....icap/3023100698

"Team Frank" founding member

 

 


#28 OldBogey

OldBogey

    Defining and analysing humour is a pastime of humourless people

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 23910 posts
  • LocationRegional Victoria

Posted 17 January 2018 - 02:37 PM

I'm still coming to terms with OB watching that left wing soft soap 'the project' !
 
Maybe just to catch up with Pricey?


There's SFA else on @ 7:00pm. I'm not going to watch Home&Away and I've already seen the news.

That's usually my cue to cook something for dinner.

Pricey is ok, sometimes. There was something about knocking down back fences and everyone sharing the larger space. Just imagine if Steve Price was your bloody neighbour!
  • VLAD likes this

#29 Itchy4Scratch

Itchy4Scratch

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 5543 posts
  • LocationSE Melbourne

Posted 17 January 2018 - 02:37 PM

Thanks great post and link. Hopefully your generation can get this sorted.

Ha, my generation is probably more apathetic than yours. No chance. 



#30 iRON MiCK

iRON MiCK

    Moss Effect

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 13324 posts
  • Locationwww.iseekgolf.com

Posted 17 January 2018 - 02:37 PM

80% of the Indigenous population died from conflict or disease in the first decade of the new colony. This is a conservative estimate.
How about a change in management rather than an invasion and redundancies were inevitable? Still not what Australia Day should be about. Change the dsy.

18.4 by Dec. 2018

 

2018 Keysborough GC Gala Team Event Winner

2017 VIC ISG OOM Overall Winner

2017 VIC OOM #5 Gardiners Run Overall Winner

http://www.golf.org....icap/3023100698

"Team Frank" founding member

 

 





0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users