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#1 draualice

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Posted 23 December 2017 - 06:06 AM

I had the pleasure of playing a 9 holer yesterday which played like an 18 as different tee boxes on the back nine made you feel like you were playing a full 18.

Immaculate fairways and true, evenly paced greens made for a fun experience. Got me to thinking, in this age of real estate values and the cost of course maintenance where a lot of smaller member based and social clubs are considering closing; why can't more courses use a better 9 hole design ?

Helensvale on the Gold Coast is a great example of a course that can be rejigged and a lot of cost saving made by only needing to maintain 9 greens and fairways.

The course I played yesterday was Harrington Waters (near Taree). As Molly would say... "Do yourself a favour!"


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Posted 23 December 2017 - 06:30 AM

I imagine that the number of players you can get on the course is a factor but that's only gunna cost you at peak times

Will be interesting to see if we do get more 9 holers - and whether even 9 hole rounds become more accepted for competition golf?
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Posted 28 December 2017 - 10:35 PM

I like to play 18 holes even when I am playing like Weetibix. ThTs it for me 18 or nothing.
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Posted 29 December 2017 - 07:23 AM

You wish you could play like Weetibix!
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Posted 29 December 2017 - 09:51 AM

I imagine that the number of players you can get on the course is a factor but that's only gunna cost you at peak times

Will be interesting to see if we do get more 9 holers - and whether even 9 hole rounds become more accepted for competition golf?

 

one of Golf Australia's newest initiatives "play 9" http://www.golf.org.au/play9, allowing 9 hole rounds to count towards handicap. Strong indication that is the way its heading. 


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Posted 29 December 2017 - 10:07 AM

one of Golf Australia's newest initiatives "play 9" http://www.golf.org.au/play9, allowing 9 hole rounds to count towards handicap. Strong indication that is the way its heading.


Absolutely.

Time to play 18 on a regular basis is a luxury when you have pre teenage kids. It's that age bracket clubs struggle to keep as members too.

As for courses designed around 9 holes but different tees, economic supply n demand of land n impact on value will force that issue in the next decade. Declining club membership leading to higher membership fees will see clubs selling off land to stay afloat to avoid total closure.
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Posted 29 December 2017 - 10:29 AM

Allowing 9 hole rounds to be used for handicapping undermines the integrity of the system a little bit, imo. Concentrating for a long period of time is part of the challenge of the game.
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Posted 29 December 2017 - 12:24 PM

Allowing 9 hole rounds to be used for handicapping undermines the integrity of the system a little bit, imo. Concentrating for a long period of time is part of the challenge of the game.


You find that concentrating for a few seconds is quite a challenge?

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 01:13 PM

You find that concentrating for a few seconds is quite a challenge?

Is that what i said?

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Posted 29 December 2017 - 04:27 PM

You find that concentrating for a few seconds is quite a challenge?


Big call from the man who can’t concentrate long enough to back his car into the garage
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Posted 29 December 2017 - 04:30 PM

Is that what i said?

and it looks like something else you said can no longer be said ....


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Posted 29 December 2017 - 04:40 PM

and it looks like something else you said can no longer be said ....


That is interesting

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Posted 30 December 2017 - 01:35 AM

Big call from the man who can’t concentrate long enough to back his car into the garage


To be fair, he did have a few frothys.
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Posted 30 December 2017 - 04:32 PM

The Nedlands masters was an Australasian tour event on a 9 hole course with different tees for each nine. Nice course but nothing special. Binningup near Bunbury is a ripper that I played many years ago and Tambo Valley in Gippsland is heaps of fun. I'd rather play a good 9 hole course twice than a bad 18 hole course. But I don't think it's fixing the problem.

Many 18 hole golf courses used to be just over 4000m and a round of golf would take 3 hours to play. The ball travelling further has closed many courses who can't mainatin the land, who can't protect neighbouring houses and turned people off who don't want to be on the course for 5 or 6 hours. 9 hole games are reducing the amount of time spent on the course but the player is now getting less bang for their buck and their time. It used to be 80 or 90 shots in 3 hours but now it is 40-45 shots in 3 hours and a lot more hanging around. The game is more boring then it used to be. I still like playing golf but play much less competitions then I used to and enjoy a social hit much more. I'm not on my own as this trend is recognised in a lot of research papers.

 

As for the handicapping my understanding is golflink hold the first 9 hole score until a second nine hole score can be matched with it to be handicapped as an 18 hole card. You can have 23 points, win the nine hole comp, and have another crack before you get handicapped. Doesn't seem right.


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Posted 14 January 2018 - 08:06 PM

The Nedlands masters was an Australasian tour event on a 9 hole course with different tees for each nine. Nice course but nothing special. Binningup near Bunbury is a ripper that I played many years ago and Tambo Valley in Gippsland is heaps of fun. I'd rather play a good 9 hole course twice than a bad 18 hole course. But I don't think it's fixing the problem.
Many 18 hole golf courses used to be just over 4000m and a round of golf would take 3 hours to play. The ball travelling further has closed many courses who can't mainatin the land, who can't protect neighbouring houses and turned people off who don't want to be on the course for 5 or 6 hours. 9 hole games are reducing the amount of time spent on the course but the player is now getting less bang for their buck and their time. It used to be 80 or 90 shots in 3 hours but now it is 40-45 shots in 3 hours and a lot more hanging around. The game is more boring then it used to be. I still like playing golf but play much less competitions then I used to and enjoy a social hit much more. I'm not on my own as this trend is recognised in a lot of research papers.
 
As for the handicapping my understanding is golflink hold the first 9 hole score until a second nine hole score can be matched with it to be handicapped as an 18 hole card. You can have 23 points, win the nine hole comp, and have another crack before you get handicapped. Doesn't seem right.


This is such a good post. Knowledgeable, well written, balanced in opinion. Of course it is completely out of place on this forum.

But such a good post. Well done. Definitely had me thinking about the correlation between course length and balata v four piece balls.
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