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#1 ZigZag

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 04:23 PM

For a lot of people these two words normally don't complement each other in the same sentence. This was the case with me since Jan. when a new design manager was appointed to head an 18 month contract. Rumour had it that it was a 'jobs for mates' situation.

We could not believe his level of incompetence concealed by constant episodes of bravado. His mendacity ("lying, untruthful, dishonest, deceitful, false, insincere, disingenuous, hypocritical, fraudulent, double-dealing, two-faced") was at a level most of us had never experienced in a workplace before.

At the halfway point (end of July) we had 'completed' 25 out of 200 designs. Management appeared too impotent to act.

After much soul-searching I realised we were dealing with a psychopath in the true sense of the word. It was a no-win situation. Five of us quit in a space of 3 months, me being number 5 in early Aug. for the sake of my mental well being. After 3 anxious weeks of unemployment I'm relieved to report that I have a new job starting in three weeks.

 

In this article "15 signs your coworker is a psychopath"

http://www.businessi...17-6/?r=AU&IR=T

he ticked nearly all the boxes :

 

“Psychopaths aren't simply jerks or bullies — they must meet a certain set of criteria, as outlined by the Hare Psychopathy Checklist” :

·         They have sadistic motives and intents

·         They're glib and constantly turn on the superficial charm

·         They have a grandiose estimation of self

·         They're confident — even in the face of overwhelming evidence (against them)

·         They're a pathological liar

·         They don't think the rules apply to them

·         They live a parasitic lifestyle

·         They are cunning and manipulative

·         They had early behavioral problems

·         They don't feel emotions like normal people

("Psychopaths can effectively mimic emotional responses, writes Psychology Today's Dr. Scott Bonn. However, they cannot sincerely feel them. Most psychopaths are master manipulators — those around them don't realize their true nature until the damage is already done.")

·         Their long-term goals are not realistic

·         They have a scary temper

 

Hopefully I’ll be able to progress towards rebuilding my golf game in the next three weeks because it has suffered very badly from this episode.


Edited by ZigZag, 29 August 2017 - 04:27 PM.

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 04:33 PM

Congrats in the new job mate
Hope it's much happier

No point in being miserable at work
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Posted 29 August 2017 - 06:17 PM

Good life choice mate, hope all goes well!
I did the same a month ago and had 18 days off to relax and play golf in the middle.
10 days into the new job I am questioning my decision.
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Posted 29 August 2017 - 06:22 PM

Congratulations on your new role. I don't know you from a bar of soap, However, I hope it all works out for you mate. I did the same, resigned on the spot, found a role 6 weeks later, never been happier.

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 06:22 PM

Wow, that check list looks almost identical to, "How to become a corporate CEO"



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Posted 29 August 2017 - 07:11 PM

I can relate very much to this story. I battled a psychopath for 2 years and suffered the effects for many years afterwards. I even investigated suing him for slander/defamation. However, I discovered he was an undischarged bankrupt so I had no recourse.

I walked away, started again in some respects, and ended up in a great place and set myself up for a very comfortable retirement.

A psychopath and weak management are something you can't beat.

Congratulations on walking away so early. Take great pleasure in the pwick get the flick eventually.

If you're vindictive like me you'll follow his career and make sure that where he goes knows his past history.
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Posted 29 August 2017 - 07:27 PM

Dad!!!! Didn't think you were like that.... PM me their name so I can make sure they don't work here in Qld,
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Posted 29 August 2017 - 11:54 PM

I was accused of being a psychopath by the ex wife. Turns out she ticks all the boxes. I'm glad I'm with Dr Sues.
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Posted 30 August 2017 - 11:27 PM

For a lot of people these two words normally don't complement each other in the same sentence. This was the case with me since Jan. when a new design manager was appointed to head an 18 month contract. Rumour had it that it was a 'jobs for mates' situation.

We could not believe his level of incompetence concealed by constant episodes of bravado. His mendacity ("lying, untruthful, dishonest, deceitful, false, insincere, disingenuous, hypocritical, fraudulent, double-dealing, two-faced") was at a level most of us had never experienced in a workplace before.

At the halfway point (end of July) we had 'completed' 25 out of 200 designs. Management appeared too impotent to act.

After much soul-searching I realised we were dealing with a psychopath in the true sense of the word. It was a no-win situation. Five of us quit in a space of 3 months, me being number 5 in early Aug. for the sake of my mental well being. After 3 anxious weeks of unemployment I'm relieved to report that I have a new job starting in three weeks.

 

In this article "15 signs your coworker is a psychopath"

http://www.businessi...17-6/?r=AU&IR=T

he ticked nearly all the boxes :

 

“Psychopaths aren't simply jerks or bullies — they must meet a certain set of criteria, as outlined by the Hare Psychopathy Checklist” :

·         They have sadistic motives and intents

·         They're glib and constantly turn on the superficial charm

·         They have a grandiose estimation of self

·         They're confident — even in the face of overwhelming evidence (against them)

·         They're a pathological liar

·         They don't think the rules apply to them

·         They live a parasitic lifestyle

·         They are cunning and manipulative

·         They had early behavioral problems

·         They don't feel emotions like normal people

("Psychopaths can effectively mimic emotional responses, writes Psychology Today's Dr. Scott Bonn. However, they cannot sincerely feel them. Most psychopaths are master manipulators — those around them don't realize their true nature until the damage is already done.")

·         Their long-term goals are not realistic

·         They have a scary temper

 

Hopefully I’ll be able to progress towards rebuilding my golf game in the next three weeks because it has suffered very badly from this episode.

 

I work with one of these....tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick......scary stuff.



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Posted 31 August 2017 - 09:34 AM

"I am not a Psychopath. I am a high functioning Sociopath".
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Posted 31 August 2017 - 09:52 AM

There was a very interesting interview on ABC a few months back (Richard Fiedlers program if anyone listens to his interviews, really good) with some kind of Doctor of Psychology or psychopathy or something. He was saying that a lot of corporate leaders have these psychopathic tendencies. It's how they climb the ladder and get the jobs. 

 

And the biggest and most obvious psychopathic one of the lot is our Donald. He apparently ticks all the boxes of a clinical diagnosis.


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Posted 31 August 2017 - 11:32 AM

I work with one of these....tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick......scary stuff.

I can empathise with you Shrek.

There is an interesting book titled "Taming Toxic People" by author David Gillespie.

I'm in two minds about reading it as I feel that I have closed the door on this dark chapter of my life. The past three weeks at home have allowed me to detoxify my mind (I no longer wake up at night thinking of ways to accelerate his journey to meet his maker )

 

This is a short interview with David Gillespie about his book on psychopaths  (were you referring to this one Baz ?):

 

http://www.abc.net.a...chopath/8742542


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Posted 31 August 2017 - 02:26 PM

I can empathise with you Shrek.

There is an interesting book titled "Taming Toxic People" by author David Gillespie.

I'm in two minds about reading it as I feel that I have closed the door on this dark chapter of my life. The past three weeks at home have allowed me to detoxify my mind (I no longer wake up at night thinking of ways to accelerate his journey to meet his maker )

 

This is a short interview with David Gillespie about his book on psychopaths  (were you referring to this one Baz ?):

 

http://www.abc.net.a...chopath/8742542

 

Yes mate, that certainly sounds like it. Was a very interesting interview. I'd imagine he was on the show to promote the book. I thought he was an academic, but obviously a writer/researcher.



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Posted 31 August 2017 - 07:03 PM

I work with one of these....tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick......scary stuff.

 

What is really scary, is the number that rise to the top and the trail of shattered careers that are left in their wake.


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Posted 31 August 2017 - 07:26 PM

What is really scary, is the number that rise to the top and the trail of shattered careers that are left in their wake.


The military and other uniformed services seem to attract such people.
Probably because even in lower ranks members can be little Hitlers.
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