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#1 *Mouldy

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Posted 20 January 2017 - 10:24 PM

Nobody seems to want to be the one to start a thread on something that has had a profound effect on many if not most people in Melbourne.

The guy is guilty and appears to have no terrorist links.

He is well known to police
He has family violence, drug and mental health issues.
He was on bail when he committed mass murder today.

Besides my favoured but slightly impractical Duterte response what is the answer.

Police aborted a pursuit of him this morning. Surely there is some military product that can stop a car short of a James Bond Aston Martin rocket. It seems like most days we have a car jacking or home invasion resulting in a pursuit where the police have to drop off in case the dopers kill someone else. I sincerely hope that the risk of the dopers killing themselves is not a criteria for abandoning a pursuit.

Why is a recidivist allowed bail. This is also a repeating occurrence. If the case is weak I can understand it. But how often is someone with past convictions allowed bail and then reoffends. Surely the guidelines for people with a criminal record has to move towards a presumption of guilt rather than innocence.

Once convicted how many chances does someone deserve. Not even a hang m high person like me would deny someone a second chance.

A second conviction has to come with a this is your last chance warning. I don't care if the guilty is 16 or 60. One more and it's life. Obviously, offences have to be classified into what is a 3rd and last chance. Maybe it should be a points system, once you've got enough points then you'll die in jail.

I don't know if it is the real issue but illicit drugs seem to be a constant. Why is the guy at the Church St nightclub looking at a slap on the wrist for selling Ectasy because they can't prove it killed anyone. Why isn't selling illicit drugs 10 years with no parole.

My final rant is when is parole appropriate. For a first but serious offence when someone expresses sincere remorse and takes steps in jail to change themselves, yep give them a chance.

Anyone that pleads not guilty but is convicted then bad luck. 10 years is 10 years, life is life.

My real fear from today is that a mad Muzzie will think that's a good idea. Shite got real in Melbourne today and I for one is very sad.

Thoughts to those devasted by the loss of loved ones
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Posted 21 January 2017 - 08:21 AM

Lock the prick up for life, never to see anything but prison walls and Bubba in his rear view mirror.
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Posted 21 January 2017 - 09:10 AM

I hate agreeing with Mouldy......

System is flawed.

Tell that to Jill Meagher's bereaved husband and family and to the many victims of yesterday's sad events.
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Posted 21 January 2017 - 09:43 AM

Out on bail after assaulting his Mums partner....dear oh dear



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Posted 21 January 2017 - 10:51 AM

Im all for the death penalty in cases like this.

Because this prrick was juiced up, there is a very good chance that he will get of with a minimal sentance
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Posted 21 January 2017 - 11:39 AM

Im all for the death penalty in cases like this.
Because this prrick was juiced up, there is a very good chance that he will get of with a minimal sentance

I'm with you Rob. There is zero doubt as to his guilt. Whether he was under the influence of mind changing substances is totally immaterial.

Hang the prick or put him in a Barwon unit with Carl Williams mates and an exercise bike.

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 12:10 PM

I think the requirement for the death penalty on cases like this is a must. They keep giving the excuse that the prisions are full etc. guys like that don't deserve the right to exist with the rest of us
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Posted 21 January 2017 - 03:31 PM

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 03:49 PM

He has mental health issues.
Lock him up in a secure mental facility forever. We don't have any of those any more, do we?

Build a wing on a maximum security gaol for the nut cases then.

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 05:22 PM

Reduce costs and put them in dormitory style accomodation so they can kill each other at will. Every low life death saves more than $100k pa.

Throw in a few of the Apex gang for entertainment. Will work well as a deterrent.

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 05:31 PM

Perhaps we should consult Indonesia on how to incarcerate many at minimal cost.

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Posted 21 January 2017 - 06:32 PM

Someone with such disregard to life doesn't deserve freedom.

 

I reckon death is too easy an option. Lock him up in a room for the rest of his life, no tv, window etc. See how long he lasts before he kills himself. The pr1ck killed a 10 yr old girl ffs. So many people have to pick up the pieces of their lives just because of this guy. 


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Posted 21 January 2017 - 07:15 PM

He has mental health issues.
 

 

It's a pity the coppers didn't give him the ultimate mental health issue - a bullet to the brain. 



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Posted 21 January 2017 - 07:23 PM

What to say... I feel very empty when I think about how many lives have been absolutely shattered from such a stupid, senseless, evil act. I can't begin to imagine how the poor families/friends/loved ones must feel, not to mention the (surviving) victims, the police, paramedics, and hospital staff who had to deal with the aftermath, and of course the lucky/unlucky folks who were present yet unharmed. What a sad state of affairs.

 

While I'm sure many will disagree with me, and that's fine, I still don't see that putting criminals to death is the answer. It just adds more death when there has been enough already. I would rather see my taxes going towards a (life) long punishment, than a killing in the hope of revenge, or who knows what else. Each to their own...

 

What I do think this event serves to underline though is that our criminal 'justice' system needs to seriously reconsider the ongoing practice of granting violent offenders bail and/or parole. It seems to me (from the outside) that police work so damn hard keeping track of these thugs and pulling them up for their offences, only for the soft touch of the judiciary to send them straight back out on the streets. How many people have to fall victim to these repeat offenders before something fundamentally changes?

 

I really hope this is the catalyst for some sort of meaningful reform, even if I probably don't agree with the level of change many are baying for at the moment.

 

Events like this truly scare me to the core in terms of what sort of world we are willing to hand down to the next generations...


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Posted 21 January 2017 - 07:29 PM

Isn't it as simple as anyone who has previously done time automatically doesn't get bail unless the lack of evidence is compelling.

 

I'm quite happy to pay more taxes for another remand centre.


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