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#16 tour grinder

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Posted 22 December 2016 - 10:41 PM

I have obviously not explained the events properly, no unplayable was taken at the time.

It was a discussion after the round was over and I said I would have been better off taking an unplayable at the time and not subjecting oneself to physical duress.

 

Interesting point,

 

Not sure why OB didnt say hey Seve, "you are entitled to a drop there if you deem the ball unplayable".

 

would he (OB) be giving the player advise, or merely providing advice about the options under the rules of golf.?


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Posted 23 December 2016 - 06:48 AM

If you're in a bunker you have to take the drop in the bunker

Seve - as CB said I think it's your call if you think it's unplayable so go for it

An example that would be similar is if the ball is right on the edge of a drop off - you may just physically not be able to stand so you can hit the ball


I thought he said he was in the long grass on the edge of the bunker, hence there is the third option to go back in a line.


But really, every unplayable is due to a physical limitation- not being a banana man, not strong enough to swing a club through a hedge. An injury is just an extension of that.

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Posted 23 December 2016 - 07:14 AM

I thought he said he was in the long grass on the edge of the bunker, hence there is the third option to go back in a line.


But really, every unplayable is due to a physical limitation- not being a banana man, not strong enough to swing a club through a hedge. An injury is just an extension of that.


Sorry - you are spot on

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Posted 23 December 2016 - 09:18 AM

I thought he said he was in the long grass on the edge of the bunker, hence there is the third option to go back in a line.


But really, every unplayable is due to a physical limitation- not being a banana man, not strong enough to swing a club through a hedge. An injury is just an extension of that.


I had it explained to me last week.
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Posted 23 December 2016 - 10:17 AM

I had it explained to me last week.
Camel grass is a bunker.


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Posted 23 December 2016 - 12:29 PM

Let me clarify a few things for those who may still be confused.

It was the 6th hole, not the 5th (irrelevant).  It is index 18 - he doesn't get a shot.

 

His ball was in the bunker for 2.  It has fairly deep soft sand and it was right on the edge.  Seve had trouble getting a stance on the steep side of the bunker, hence the trouble with his hip.  His ball was somewhat buried (fried egg).

 

Had he tried to come out sideways, he most likely would have put it into the next bunker.

 

He had a go, hit the wall under the lip and the ball ran back to the middle of the bunker where he had no trouble knocking it up to the green but missed the putt.

 

He had a playing lesson with Supercoach (yes, same one) the day before and the after (this) game discussions included analysing what he might have done better.

 

He wasn't asking a question, just opening it up for discussion and to see if anyone had any brilliant ideas on how he could have done it better.

 

I should point out that, had he taken a drop, he may have got another fried egg instead of the perfect (next) lie that he did get.



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Posted 23 December 2016 - 12:31 PM

So, where are all these brilliant suggestions that we couldn't come up with over a collection of schooners?



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Posted 23 December 2016 - 12:40 PM

Brilliant suggestion?...don't hit it into bunkers .... you're welcome.

 

Seve, your situation sucked mate and as someone once told me the hardest decision for most of us choppers is taking an "unplayable".

 

So many times you see people trying to hack a ball out of bad situation only to chunk it a foot or so and leave it in the poop :P .....where they could just take the two club length to a better spot and save further punishment :)


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Posted 23 December 2016 - 02:06 PM

Ghetto was closest to the brilliant suggestion. I still have scars from playing with OB. Off the course he ain't so bad. I have never played with a more competitive anal motherfucker. And I have played with a few lol.
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Posted 23 December 2016 - 05:38 PM

Ghetto was closest to the brilliant suggestion. I still have scars from playing with OB. Off the course he ain't so bad. I have never played with a more competitive anal motherfucker. And I have played with a few lol.


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Posted 03 March 2017 - 10:41 AM

Along similar lines, a while back I witnessed a player tee off and hit the ball about 10 metres and end up in a really awkward position in front of some trees and just short of water. Whilst awkward, he could make his stance and had an unobstructed swing. About 8 shots later, he hacked it out from where he was continued.

 

Discussing after the fact, he mentioned that "he wished he could have just taken an unplayable", to which i advised, he could have.

 

He was of the impression that the ball truly had to be unplayable in order to take that relief.

 

Even after i explained that technically you can declare a ball unplayable anywhere (except for a water hazard) he still didn't think it was the appropriate thing to do.

 

Anyway. was interesting i thought - personally i would have taken an unplayable straight away.


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Posted 03 March 2017 - 12:55 PM

Many players think they can hit their ball out from anywhere, rather than admit they stuffed up and should take their medicine with an unplayable.
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Posted 03 March 2017 - 01:00 PM

If you have the skills you can hit a ball from basically anywhere. Like most things in golf, you get in to trouble when your ambition exceeds your ability. 



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Posted 03 March 2017 - 01:06 PM

Many players think they can hit their ball out from anywhere, rather than admit they stuffed up and should take their medicine with an unplayable.

 

What was interesting, is that the player wanted to take an unplayable though. But they felt in doing so it would be go against the nature of how the rule is intended to be taken.

 

Strange I know. They felt that irrespective of how difficult the shot was, that because they could the ball unimpeded the unplayable rule was not an option.


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Posted 03 March 2017 - 05:43 PM

Many players think they can hit their ball out from anywhere, rather than admit they stuffed up and should take their medicine with an unplayable.

Until a year or so ago, the USGA Course Rating System only rated the difficulty of getting out from trees for the scratch player but not for the bogey player. They just got a 'standard' figure.

The theory being that bogey players believed the could hit the ball through the eye of a needle and would always take the trees on. Unsuccessfully most of the time of course.


Edited by AAA, 03 March 2017 - 05:44 PM.





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