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#1 Monty85

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Posted 05 December 2016 - 11:12 PM

This may be an a quick answer. I'm trying to understand how to determine when a ball is out of bounds in this scenario.

 

The out of bounds fence is defined by a chain link fence. The fence is damaged and leaning over and the middle of the fence is bent outwards away from the course.

 

The ball in question is laying outside the invisible line between the two poles but is inside the fence that has bent outwards. 

 

Is this ball still in bounds?


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Posted 05 December 2016 - 11:40 PM

Out of Bounds is defined as nearest inside points of the stakes or fence posts at ground level and extends vertically upwards and downwards



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Posted 06 December 2016 - 04:49 AM

Was the gate in the fence open or closed? :D


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Posted 06 December 2016 - 09:19 AM

There was no gate. It was just the panel of the fence that was pushed outwards. So the ball lay outside the lines of the fence posts but was inside the boundary the actual fence was making.

Based on AAA's post above though it seems the determining factor is the fence posts and not the fence itself. So in his case the ball would have been OOB.

There were no stakes defining OOB in this case. Only the fence.

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Posted 06 December 2016 - 10:14 AM

Maybe a process improvement is to place some OOB stakes just in front of the fence poles.

To eliminate any issues



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Posted 06 December 2016 - 11:03 AM

Maybe a process improvement is to place some OOB stakes just in front of the fence poles.

To eliminate any issues

 

Not required.  Imo, it's already covered in the definition of out of bounds.


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Posted 06 December 2016 - 01:11 PM

There was no gate. It was just the panel of the fence that was pushed outwards. So the ball lay outside the lines of the fence posts but was inside the boundary the actual fence was making.

Based on AAA's post above though it seems the determining factor is the fence posts and not the fence itself. So in his case the ball would have been OOB.

There were no stakes defining OOB in this case. Only the fence.

Somehow I don't think that Rogolf's post was meant to be serious. Rather a sarcastic return to a previous thread. :)


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Posted 06 December 2016 - 01:23 PM

Somehow I don't think that Rogolf's post was meant to be serious. Rather a sarcastic return to a previous thread. :)

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Posted 06 December 2016 - 01:28 PM

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We should have him stuffed.
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Posted 06 December 2016 - 03:30 PM

A rules guru with a sense of humour.
We should have him stuffed.


I expect that's often said to rules officials.

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Posted 07 December 2016 - 09:46 AM

I expect that's often said to rules officials.

 

Maybe after they leave the situation?  I've never heard it, players are generally very polite (caddies not necessarily so!).


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Posted 07 December 2016 - 10:50 AM

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Kinda like when a librarian cracks a funny......
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Posted 07 December 2016 - 11:19 AM

Maybe after they leave the situation?  I've never heard it, players are generally very polite (caddies not necessarily so!).

I can think of a couple of occasions where the language was much stronger than that :lol: but I agree , generally most golfers are polite. Of course I am in a position where we rarely have to deal with Caddies.


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Posted 07 December 2016 - 12:12 PM

Kinda like when a librarian cracks a funny......

needed to read that thrice
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Posted 07 December 2016 - 04:22 PM

A rules guru with a sense of humour.

We should have him stuffed.

 

And this one too, then, when he had to guide Nicola Colsaerts through the process of taking relief in a toilet. The referee isn't exactly po-faced is he?

 


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