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#16 macc

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Posted 06 November 2017 - 01:06 PM

I'm not sure it's a risk - it'll be good in Melbourne - but the attitude Melbourne is the natural home of the Open because of the sandbelt is silly.

Ideally it'd do back to pre-1975 and go around the country.

It's also annoying people complain about there being 'no golf in Melbourne' when they would never consider driving to Barwon Heads to watch a great event with both men and women.


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Posted 06 November 2017 - 01:18 PM

Well the Masters obviously didn't work so any other Australian PGA event is definitely a risk, especially when taking it away from a place where it has been a success recently. 

Barwon heads is the better part of 2 hours away from the Sandbelt in Melbourne and the event doesn't have any big names like the Aus Open does, I'm not sure the two are comparable. 

I'm looking forward to the Presidents Cup in a couple of years but really, given the choice between actually playing golf on a weekend and watching it live, I'd choose to play a round and then watch some on TV. 






 



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Posted 07 November 2017 - 06:25 AM

Out of curiosity, what were admission prices in Sydney?

I thought 50 bucks was a fair bit steep when i went 2 years ago at KH
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Posted 07 November 2017 - 07:21 AM

Out of curiosity, what were admission prices in Sydney?
I thought 50 bucks was a fair bit steep when i went 2 years ago at KH


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Posted 07 November 2017 - 07:58 AM

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Double that and add $25 for parking when it comes to Melbourne.

Also looks like the Vic PGA has been scrapped for next year.
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Posted 07 November 2017 - 08:09 AM

Bruce,

 

It's amazing Melbourne golfers think Melbourne has some right to The Open - Sydney has done a brilliant job with it and galleries have turned up in big numbers every year.

It'll be good to have it in '20 and '22 but to think Melbourne somehow deserves it over Sydney is silly.

Melbourne golf galleries shouldn't be quickly forgiven for having Lydia Ko put on a clinic of amazing golf in 2015 at Royal Melbourne - and having less than 100 people following her down the 15th fairway on Saturday.

The Vic Open was awful the last few years in Melbourne yet it has thrived at Barwon Heads/13th Beach where the locals properly support golf - as opposed to golf with a superstar attached to it.

Not sure I necessarily agree about the Vic Open being awful in Melbourne prior to its move to 13th Beach. I recall doing highlights packages for the Vic Open at Springfield Valley when Ash Hall then Jason Norris won and the crowds were very respectable given the Tier 2 level of the event.

 

 

I do agree with some of your other sentiments though

 

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Posted 07 November 2017 - 08:10 AM

The Masters worked for many years - it was only the last couple where it lost its lustre.

I guess it depends if you want to watch 'big names' or are happy to watch good golf,good competition, on a good course - and being able to walk the fairways and watch golf properly.

 

The Open with this years Sydney field would be fine in Melbourne. People would turn up in numbers to watch Spieth,Day,Scott,Ogilvy and the rest.


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Posted 07 November 2017 - 08:15 AM

Bruce,

 

That's true - it wasn't awful by any means but nothing close to what they have created at 13th Beach.

You could argue it was an ordinary event in comparison though. 

It certainly wasn't going anywhere in Melbourne because fans in Melbourne have changed and only turn up in numbers for male stars. It was never that way in the 70s and 80s.


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Posted 14 November 2017 - 04:04 PM

Didn't NSW out bid Vic to get the rights for the Oz open via the company in charge, IMG ?
If the Vic open is staged at one of the top 4 or 5 clubs then the fans come out to have a wander around and take in the opulence.
Having both the men's and women's open at the same venue at the same time seems to be a cost cutting exercise ? I'm not interested in travelling to 13th to watch the local pros play, when I can pretty much play that course any day of the week. Watching them battle on the best courses in the land makes for great drama.
Recreating the strength in tournament golf like in the 70's and 80's could be viable if the big multi national companies got behind GA the PGA and the local clubs but that isn't going to happen without all of them being on the same page.
Unfortunately Kerry Packer, Alan Bond, Christopher Skase and the like are long gone from the scene so to get that feel back will need some of the new rich kids on the block to get involved and stump up the money-enthusiasm !
Oh for the good old days :)
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Posted 14 November 2017 - 04:16 PM

Hardly a cost-cutting exercise. It's a combined $1.3m purse v the next state Open (NSW this week) at $450k. The rest -WA,Qld are around 125k


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Posted 15 November 2017 - 05:34 PM

Hardly a cost-cutting exercise. It's a combined $1.3m purse v the next state Open (NSW this week) at $450k. The rest -WA,Qld are around 125k

Hardly a cost-cutting exercise. It's a combined $1.3m purse v the next state Open (NSW this week) at $450k. The rest -WA,Qld are around 125k


Is that all you got out of my 3/4 paragraphs of sensible debate ?
Of course NSW can't have a bigger purse because their government spent the bulk on securing the Oz open for how many years ?
1.3 sounds great until you divide it in two, what is the breakup between the girls and the guys ?
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 05:26 AM

Is that all you got out of my 3/4 paragraphs of sensible debate ?Of course NSW can't have a bigger purse because their government spent the bulk on securing the Oz open for how many years ?1.3 sounds great until you divide it in two, what is the breakup between the girls and the guys ?Jon...


2017
Mens Vic open winner got $90000
Ladies vic open winner got $75000.

Prize pool for M&W =AUD 500k
The diifference is how the money is allocated.

Daniel "iam a good bloke" has increased prize money to 1.3m for 2018.
The mens and ladies tournament together is a great concept.
Therefore need 36 hole venues to accomidate such an event
As for quality of field, the womens event has lots of high ranked european Lpga players.they are good to go and watch, their skill level is good as well.

The decision to play at 13th beach was political, it was done to bolster tourism for the Geelong region after Ford closed down.

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 07:37 AM

After Ford closed down.

 

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 07:50 AM

there really should be some wide-ranging investigations into what they're putting in the water at the nursing homes, something aint right with them at the minute 


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 04:30 AM

Jon

 

IMG aren't in charge of the Australian Open. Lagadere are.

I'm not sure exactly why it stayed in Sydney but part of his was Emirates reluctance to leave - but the concession to play in 20 and 22 in Melbourne.

I think it's a pity you can't be bothered to go to 13th Beach - aside from being a really good event down there the Beach Course is one of the best courses in the country. It'd be one of the best two or three courses courses in probably four states.

Recreating the strength of the 70s and 80s would be easier if all our best players played - as they did back then We can't even get Scott and Leishman to Sydney this year - because they amount of money they - and Day/Spieth - want to play blows the budget. In 1979 Aust Open 3 of the 4 major champions played - Seve,Graham and Zoeller plus Norman - played. These days that-3m + in fees.


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