Seems to be some confusion at my club in regards to rule 28 on a certain hole. Par 4 with a large, round, dense bush on the left hand side of the fairway. This thing would be 50mtrs in circumference. The point in question seems to be thus. Do you need to find your ball to deem it unplayable? It is not a staked hazard. When I have hit into it I have hit a provisional and then searched for my first ball to no avail, but, I have seen other players dropping at or behind point of entry even though they haven't found their ball.
Posted 21 November 2016 - 06:44 PM
If you can't find your ball how can you take relief other than hitting another from where you hit into the bush. Seems like some people are taking Irish Drops illegally.
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Posted 21 November 2016 - 06:58 PM
Perhaps the bush needs a localised bush fire, or a working bee to 'tidy it up'.
Pending a fix-up, the club could declare it GUR. The remedy for a ball lost in GUR is a free drop.
Vastly different outcomes.
Posted 21 November 2016 - 07:10 PM
I guess the main question is do you need to find your ball to deem it unplayable? According to rule 28 the player is the sole arbiter of if the ball is unplayable. If the bush is 500mtrs either side and there is no chance the ball could have left the course bounds am I not entitled to declare it unplayable? I can declare a ball unplayable anywhere in the course except a water hazard.
Posted 21 November 2016 - 07:27 PM
If the player deems his ball to be unplayable, he must, under penalty of one stroke:
b. Drop a ball behind the point where the ball lay, keeping that point directly between the hole and the spot on which the ball is dropped, with no limit to how far behind that point the ball may be dropped; or
c. Drop a ball within two club-lengths of the spot where the ball lay, but not nearer the hole.
When proceeding under this Rule, the player may lift and clean his ball or substitute a ball.
PENALTY FOR BREACH OF RULE:
Match play – Loss of hole; Stroke play – Two strokes.
Posted 21 November 2016 - 07:28 PM
In the original scenario, dropping a substitute ball behind the bush means you are playing from a wrong place. You don't get hit with 2-stroke penalties for both a substitution and wrong place, only one 2-stroke penalty. But, if the wrong place is significantly forward of where the ball should be played (in this case back on the tee), you're disqualified.
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