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#1 mugcanic

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 06:33 PM

Why oh why is this even happening?

The guy was hit in the head by a cricket ball.

This caused internal bleeding and he passed away from this.

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Honestly sometimes this country absolutely mystifies me.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 06:40 PM

Im torn between the tragedy that should be dealt with in a sensative manner versus a chance to ensure future risks are less than they were.

Either way this is a truly sad circumstance
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Posted 14 October 2016 - 06:46 PM

Turned into trying to blame the bowlers for being aggressive

I get that his dad wants someone to blame but this isn't going to help them heal

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 06:55 PM

It's a Coroner's Inquest.

It's not a witch hunt from the Hughes family to find blame, it's a legally required inquest.

This is becoming a very unpleasant situation, but this needs to happen to ensure the Coroner can recommend measures to ensure similar deaths are avoided.
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Posted 14 October 2016 - 07:20 PM

Measures were taken pretty much straight after it happened.....additional protection added behind the side protector on the helmet. Don't need coroners recommendation for that.

Inquest just a waste of time and money and does nothing to help the family to grieve.


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Posted 14 October 2016 - 09:28 PM

The thing I have never understood about cricket is why does the sport condone head high bounces at a players head which have the potential to cause serious injury and death in the Hughes incident.

In professional cricket I am assuming that the top fast bowlers can hit their target most times.
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Posted 15 October 2016 - 02:12 AM

The thing I have never understood about cricket is why does the sport condone head high bounces at a players head which have the potential to cause serious injury and death in the Hughes incident.

In professional cricket I am assuming that the top fast bowlers can hit their target most times.

 

Good point. I'd never thought about it like that Razaar. Like most cricketers I've always viewed bouncers as a legitimate part of a fast bowlers' armoury. And it would be a very different game without them.

 

But agree, other than boxing and other combat sports, I think it's the only one that allows the opponent to actually target the head.

 

I wonder if that would ever change. The football codes have gone to some length to ensure contact with the head is minimal and/or outlawed.

 

(Having said that, the Hughes tragedy wasn't a blow to the head, rather the neck wasn't it?)



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Posted 15 October 2016 - 08:17 AM

Measures were taken pretty much straight after it happened.....additional protection added behind the side protector on the helmet. Don't need coroners recommendation for that.

Inquest just a waste of time and money and does nothing to help the family to grieve.

An inquest is a legal requirement for any abnormal death.  There is nothing unusual in this case other than the media reporting it.


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Posted 15 October 2016 - 08:33 AM

An inquest is a legal requirement for any abnormal death.  There is nothing unusual in this case other than the media reporting it.

Except the allegations that the bowler intended to kill Hughes. Not a good look for the sport.

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Posted 15 October 2016 - 08:59 AM

Cricket at the Elite Level rarely sees players hurt. They have years of coaching and sound techniques. Unfortunately for Phil he had a major flaw around the short ball angled in at him on leg stump.
Jamie Siddens was another I remember couldn't get to Test Level because he was unable to play the short one.
Phil was unlucky and his death is a tragedy. Abbott intended to exploit a flaw in Hughes technique to stop him scoring and then dismiss him with a fuller delivery.
Hughes chose to play at the ball that hit him, took his eyes off it and was struck. Unbelievably it hit him under the helmet and the resulting injury was the cause of death. Like I said tragic.
In my time in the game I saw many players hit and hurt by short balls.
I have permanent scars myself from it.
It is part of the game.
A Coronial Inquest won't find anything more than an incredibly awful accidental death.
RIP Hughsy.
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Posted 15 October 2016 - 05:15 PM

The thing I have never understood about cricket is why does the sport condone head high bounces at a players head which have the potential to cause serious injury and death in the Hughes incident.
In professional cricket I am assuming that the top fast bowlers can hit their target most times.


Sooooo, we just tell the bowlers they have to pitch the ball up and aren't allowed to intimidate the batsmen??
Got an issue??

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Posted 15 October 2016 - 05:44 PM

Sooooo, we just tell the bowlers they have to pitch the ball up and aren't allowed to intimidate the batsmen??

Which is the way the short forms are going and scores around 400 will be the norm.  Might as well replace bowlers with bowling machines and grass wickets with asphalt.


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Posted 15 October 2016 - 05:51 PM

In my time in the game I saw many players hit and hurt by short balls.
I have permanent scars myself from it.
It is part of the game.

I played a lot of club cricket, wore the cuts and bruises as did most people.

 

However, it was extremely rare for the bowler to cause injury.  The overwhelming norm was the batsman doing something stupid.  Every injury requiring medical treatment that I saw was from top edges hitting the batsman or the keeper.


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Posted 15 October 2016 - 07:22 PM

Sooooo, we just tell the bowlers they have to pitch the ball up and aren't allowed to intimidate the batsmen??

Don't care, cricket makes no sense to me as a sport, even when I played it. The 5 gallon keg of beer under the fig tree and mates were the draw card for me.

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Posted 15 October 2016 - 08:09 PM

I played a lot of club cricket, wore the cuts and bruises as did most people.

However, it was extremely rare for the bowler to cause injury. The overwhelming norm was the batsman doing something stupid. Every injury requiring medical treatment that I saw was from top edges hitting the batsman or the keeper.

Yep same. Batsmen hit in the noggin were either unable to play a hook shot or were not inside it so if they missed it didn't scone them.
Hughes family want answers to questions no one will ask. Was Phil a good player of short bowling? Was he dropped from Aus XI becauseof that? Did his actions on the day contribute to what happened?

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