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Posted 22 August 2016 - 08:03 PM

Tell that to two people who love each other, you insensitive muppet.
 
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I'm not being insensitive. They can all choose to love someone. Love is good.
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Posted 22 August 2016 - 08:04 PM

I vote Pleats

 

 



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Posted 22 August 2016 - 08:26 PM

I think most of the issue is actually caused by the word itself ..... "marriage".

 

Has the M word, been "patented" by religion .... or is it open to use by those non religious sectors of the community, eg the civil sector who view it slightly differently, and in a more "one size fits all" kind of a way.

 

Does marriage, as a word ..... need to be once and for all clearly defined, or have the definition updated in order to satisfy both sides of the debate?

 

Religious people will stick to the "marriage is a union between man and woman" interpretation.

 

Those non religious types opposed to gaay marriage will more than likely use the religious definition as their argument, lest they be seen to actually be discriminating against the LGB community.

 

Others who have a broader scope of the term marriage, eg "a union between two people" will say what's all the fuss about?

 

I think before the debate can truly begin, there needs to be clarity on exactly what the word marriage means.

 

As for my own views on the subject ....... there is way too much hate and anger in the world, and if anyone can find love and be happy with someone else, then no-one should stand in their way.

Most definitions of marriage refer to Man & wife or Mother & Father etc. But then most definitions are of an age that relates to the acceptance of  marriage as being between a man & a woman. Am I against gay marriage. Not really sure but then I cannot see what all the fuss is about. More and more couples are living together without the hassles of getting married. And a very small minority of people are fighting for the right to get married. As stated earlier legally it makes very little difference either way. As for a plebiscite. I agree , why waste the money. get the gov politicians to vote on it with a conscience vote allowed & get over it. The countr6y has more important issues that need dealing with. And to address another similar issue. Getting rid of the Monarchy. Another idea that sounds great . has very little effect on the day to day running of the country & would cost $billions to implement. Money that the country does not have .


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Posted 22 August 2016 - 09:41 PM

Agree with the two opinions above.plebiscite. Waste of money and time. Let them get married if they want who cares. If you don't agree on religious grounds, don't go to a gay wedding.
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Posted 22 August 2016 - 10:29 PM

At the same time burn off your children or other relatives who are gay.  Also your friends who are gay or who have gay children.  At the same time treat a gay person you work with poorly and GOD forbid don't work for a gay boss.

 

In 39 years in the workforce my best and as it turned out my last boss was a gay guy.  He remains a good friend to my wife and I plus we have a great respect for him as a person in every way.

 

Contrary to the god squad's belief, being gay isn't a disease that can be cured.  The exclusion of gays by many religions shows the pathetic archaic principles they continue to live by.

 

Ban religion and save the world !  If necessary burn all the true believers and start again.  Religion has no place in a well orderded society.


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Posted 22 August 2016 - 10:34 PM

I became good friends with a g..ay guy years ago. I had no idea he was g..ay till he told me. He said to me very simply when we were discussing it and the issues he had growing up. He said "There is one difference between you and me. I go to bed with men and you go to bed with women."

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Posted 22 August 2016 - 10:41 PM

I became good friends with a g..ay guy years ago. I had no idea he was g..ay till he told me. He said to me very simply when we were discussing it and the issues he had growing up. He said "There is one difference between you and me. I go to bed with men and you go to bed with women."


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Posted 22 August 2016 - 10:44 PM

Thanks for explaining that, OB. ;-))


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Posted 23 August 2016 - 12:37 AM

What's wrong with a civil union?


Fine. We'll just scrap marriage all together and all couples, straight or gaay can just have civil unions.
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Posted 23 August 2016 - 04:21 AM

Fine. We'll just scrap marriage all together and all couples, straight or gaay can just have civil unions.

Out of interest, are you in a same sex relationship?
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Posted 23 August 2016 - 12:52 PM

Just as an aside ..... has a guy ever truly proposed marriage to a woman ....... without him being guided towards it by her first?

 

I reckon weddings are basically the domain of the females . its the whole new frock and presents thing, the whole look at me I'm the centre of attention princess type arrangement that leads to marriage, and not something that is really driven by men.

 

Guys on the other hand I reckon would be quite happy to just live in sin etc ......

 

Just my thoughts ...... :)


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Posted 23 August 2016 - 02:15 PM

Out of interest, are you in a same sex relationship?


No more than you
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Posted 23 August 2016 - 02:26 PM

No more than you

Both your young ones are a similarish ages, so yeah I reckon you'd both have a lot of the same sexytime
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Posted 23 August 2016 - 02:40 PM

Just as an aside ..... has a guy ever truly proposed marriage to a woman ....... without him being guided towards it by her first?

 

I reckon weddings are basically the domain of the females . its the whole new frock and presents thing, the whole look at me I'm the centre of attention princess type arrangement that leads to marriage, and not something that is really driven by men.

 

Guys on the other hand I reckon would be quite happy to just live in sin etc ......

 

Just my thoughts ...... :)

In some old tv show, maybe Cracker, there was a classic quote.  Something like..

 

There are 2 great moments in a woman's life, when she marries a man and when she buries him.  Only times when she is the centre of attention.


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Posted 23 August 2016 - 03:20 PM

But I do not think that there should be a plebiscite, solely because of the waste of resources and dollars and TV commercials.
Let the Parliament vote on it and have their vote based on the squeekiest constituents.
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