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Posted 05 April 2016 - 05:13 PM

I am currently constructing a 12 hole golf course on a mates bush property and need to work out the distances from tee to green (pin).

 

How are these distances measured on, say dog leg holes where you cannot see the pin? Is the hole measured to a point on the fairway then to the center of the green or are they surveyed to calculate a direct line "as the crow fly's"?

 

What about short downhill/uphill holes? I figure they are a direct line of sight to the pin (green). A downhill hole could be worked out by a horizontal line from tee to above center of green but I'd imagine that would end up giving a shorter reading than what it actually is.

 

Now this is no Augusta but there is a par 5 and 2 par 4's, the tees just flat spots I could find and the greens...well there is no putting at this stage, you only have to finish the ball within 1m of the pin to be "in". We had our first HIO on the weekend on a 150m par 3...well I'm guessing it's 150m. ;)

 

I intend to take a range finder next time to work out the distances then I'm going to make up some markers for each hole.

 

Any info would be appreciated...and if anyone has any old flag sticks that they have stolen from anywhere I'd happily hide them on this course for you.  :D


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Posted 05 April 2016 - 05:15 PM

I am currently constructing a 12 hole golf course on a mates bush property and need to work out the distances from tee to green (pin).

How are these distances measured on, say dog leg holes where you cannot see the pin? Is the hole measured to a point on the fairway then to the center of the green or are they surveyed to calculate a direct line "as the crow fly's"?

What about short downhill/uphill holes? I figure they are a direct line of sight to the pin (green). A downhill hole could be worked out by a horizontal line from tee to above center of green but I'd imagine that would end up giving a shorter reading than what it actually is.

Now this is no Augusta but there is a par 5 and 2 par 4's, the tees just flat spots I could find and the greens...well there is no putting at this stage, you only have to finish the ball within 1m of the pin to be "in". We had our first HIO on the weekend on a 150m par 3...well I'm guessing it's 150m. ;)

I intend to take a range finder next time to work out the distances then I'm going to make up some markers for each hole.

Any info would be appreciated...and if anyone has any old flag sticks that they have stolen from anywhere I'd happily hide them on this course for you. :D

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Posted 05 April 2016 - 05:18 PM

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Posted 05 April 2016 - 05:18 PM

Can I get Country Membership there too?

But as you first suspected, measured horizontally from plan view and dogleg holes are measured to a point on the corner and then on to the green.
Any vertical change is ignored.
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Posted 05 April 2016 - 05:21 PM

Can I get Country Membership there too?

But as you first suspected, measured horizontally from plan view and dogleg holes are measured to a point on the corner and then on to the green.
Any vertical change is ignored.

I doubt you'd like the initiation for membership, but then again...

 

Thanks for that Bump. As I wont have an aerial plan of the course I'll just have to do the downhill/uphill as line of sight. 


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Posted 05 April 2016 - 05:31 PM

I doubt you'd like the initiation for membership, but then again...

Thanks for that Bump. As I wont have an aerial plan of the course I'll just have to do the downhill/uphill as line of sight.

Send me an email, I might have the technology and skills to help you out.
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Posted 05 April 2016 - 06:09 PM

Holes should be measured from the centre of the teeing ground between the plates, along the centre of the fairway to the centre of the green.

It was usually done with a measuring wheel but is now commonly done with a laser range finder.

Near enough is good enough. I have found markers to be wrong by 10 metres.
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Posted 05 April 2016 - 06:24 PM

Holes should be measured from the centre of the teeing ground between the plates, along the centre of the fairway to the centre of the green.

It was usually done with a measuring wheel but is now commonly done with a laser range finder.

Near enough is good enough. I have found markers to be wrong by 10 metres.

Near enough is good enough here...but I'd like to be as accurate as possible...this is how Augusta got started so who knows!  tiger-woods-smiley-emoticon.gif


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Posted 05 April 2016 - 06:31 PM

When you get it to Augusta standard, you can get professional surveyors to re-do it.
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Posted 05 April 2016 - 06:34 PM

When you get it to Augusta standard, you can get professional surveyors to re-do it.

I'm sure that Augusta was surveyed earlier than the standard it is at now ;)


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Posted 05 April 2016 - 06:43 PM

I am currently constructing a 12 hole golf course on a mates bush property and need to work out the distances from tee to green (pin).

 

How are these distances measured on, say dog leg holes where you cannot see the pin? Is the hole measured to a point on the fairway then to the center of the green or are they surveyed to calculate a direct line "as the crow fly's"?

 

What about short downhill/uphill holes? I figure they are a direct line of sight to the pin (green). A downhill hole could be worked out by a horizontal line from tee to above center of green but I'd imagine that would end up giving a shorter reading than what it actually is.

 

Now this is no Augusta but there is a par 5 and 2 par 4's, the tees just flat spots I could find and the greens...well there is no putting at this stage, you only have to finish the ball within 1m of the pin to be "in". We had our first HIO on the weekend on a 150m par 3...well I'm guessing it's 150m. ;)

 

I intend to take a range finder next time to work out the distances then I'm going to make up some markers for each hole.

 

Any info would be appreciated...and if anyone has any old flag sticks that they have stolen from anywhere I'd happily hide them on this course for you.  :D

 

Nice one Captain.

 

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Posted 05 April 2016 - 07:33 PM

I am currently constructing a 12 hole golf course on a mates bush property and need to work out the distances from tee to green (pin).

 

How are these distances measured on, say dog leg holes where you cannot see the pin? Is the hole measured to a point on the fairway then to the center of the green or are they surveyed to calculate a direct line "as the crow fly's"?

 

What about short downhill/uphill holes? I figure they are a direct line of sight to the pin (green). A downhill hole could be worked out by a horizontal line from tee to above center of green but I'd imagine that would end up giving a shorter reading than what it actually is.

 

Now this is no Augusta but there is a par 5 and 2 par 4's, the tees just flat spots I could find and the greens...well there is no putting at this stage, you only have to finish the ball within 1m of the pin to be "in". We had our first HIO on the weekend on a 150m par 3...well I'm guessing it's 150m. ;)

 

I intend to take a range finder next time to work out the distances then I'm going to make up some markers for each hole.

 

Any info would be appreciated...and if anyone has any old flag sticks that they have stolen from anywhere I'd happily hide them on this course for you.  :D

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Posted 05 April 2016 - 10:29 PM

Send me an email, I might have the technology and skills to help you out.


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Posted 06 April 2016 - 06:12 AM

Don't undersell yourself bump. Google maps is gud.

No sorry, my bad I mixed that up, I should have said I have the technology but might have the skills
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Posted 06 April 2016 - 08:14 AM

Thanks for that Bump. As I wont have an aerial plan of the course I'll just have to do the downhill/uphill as line of sight. 

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