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#31 Tochakka

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Posted 09 March 2016 - 09:05 PM

When I restarted golf in 2010 I decided to have lessons and my handicap was 36 and I played like it. I had to make big changes to my grip ,stance and everything in between but in 12 months reduced my handicap to 18 with lessons every 8 weeks or so.
In the next 12 months I reduced my handicap to 12 with lessons about every 3 months or so but had a quick chat every time I saw him and when I look at videos of the first lessons to now it is two different golfers swinging.
As time went by I reduced the frequency of lessons but when I hit a plateau I would get a quick tune up to fix minor issues.
I had a lesson a couple weeks ago to fix a couple things and hopefully the changes will help my handicap move again in the right direction and I will see him again soon to reinforce the changes and discuss how to make more improvements in my game.currently my handicap is 8.8 and my lowest was 7.6 mid last year.
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Posted 10 March 2016 - 03:03 PM

I'v had three lessons with my new coach, my handicap hasn't changed but I'v noticed a massive difference in the quality of the strike.

I almost never hit them fat anymore, basically a bad shot now for me is thin and long, I'll take that.

 

I still spray the ball a fair bit so that's the next thing to tighten up.


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Posted 11 March 2016 - 10:48 AM

Should a coach's merit just be based purely on a numbers game?

 

Eg, whatever handicap number you start off with, to whatever handicap number you reach ......  within say 6 months.

 

Surely, for those who's golfing aim is simply to reduce their handicap, this would be a true and ideal measure of a coach's worth.

 

If you want someone to understand you, and to hold your hand, go to a shrink, and not a golf coach.

 

Just my thoughts .... :)

 

PS, I've seen people rave about coaches etc, and yet they're handicap rarely changes .. are they just paying someone to be their friend??

 

I have been through this.  I love my coach but I probably only have 4-5 lessons a year, generally to find the next thing that I am working on improving.  For the last two years, I had been feeling like virtually every aspect of my golf was improving but my handicap wasn't significantly improving.  So by this criteria my coach wasn't helping me, but my experience was that my shots were improving.

 

I don't want to jinx it, but this year has seen me have a new drop in my handicap, which I view as the culminated effect of the work that I have been putting in over the last two years.

 

Remember, handicap is a sign of how you are scoring, not necessarily a sign of how you are playing.


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Posted 11 March 2016 - 11:48 AM

Isn't that (how you are scoring) ........ what most golfers would use to gauge their performance?

 

There are a lot of "Race to ...."  threads on here that would point to it.

 

(I do agree though that scoring certainly isn't everything) :D


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Posted 11 March 2016 - 01:02 PM

I had a lesson this morning. Really the first proper individual lesson I have ever had so I didn't really know what to expect.

-Slight ball position change for driver and fairway woods
-Lowering of tee height for driver. 
-Got told categorically that I was not allowed to use my current 3 wood or 3 hybrid anymore as they are too soft in the shaft which causes issues with my other clubs.

Was hitting them pure after about 5 minutes and the pro is lending me his 3 wood for the weekend so I don't have to use my old one. 

No more hooks for me. 



 


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Posted 11 March 2016 - 03:15 PM

Isn't that (how you are scoring) ........ what most golfers would use to gauge their performance?

 

There are a lot of "Race to ...."  threads on here that would point to it.

 

(I do agree though that scoring certainly isn't everything) :D

 

It absolutely is important long term.  And the point of improving my game is to try to get better scores along the way.  I just don't know that you can always say that that happens in 4 months or 6 months or whatever.

 

I improved very rapidly from starting on about 32 and coming in to a playing handicap of around 20. But it has been a very slow slog since then to get now down to a playing handicap of 17.  But I only play once per week at most and I have limited time to practice outside of that.  So I try to be realistic about what I can achieve.


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Posted 11 March 2016 - 04:25 PM

My last lesson was in 2012, just prior to the Patto River OOM...that I then proceeded to NAGA. I think I was playing off around 24 at that stage.

I did get one very useful tip re my stance...but since then whatever improvement I have made would have to be attributable to my own learning, I would think. I have a GL of around 13 now, and play off 16 at my own course..which is significantly more difficult than my old course.

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Posted 11 March 2016 - 09:07 PM

My last lesson was in 2012, just prior to the Patto River OOM...that I then proceeded to NAGA. I think I was playing off around 24 at that stage.

I did get one very useful tip re my stance...but since then whatever improvement I have made would have to be attributable to my own learning, I would think. I have a GL of around 13 now, and play off 16 at my own course..which is significantly more difficult than my old course.

I'm not paying for anyone to be my friend...unless I have to...


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Posted 11 March 2016 - 09:10 PM

What's a lesson?

Sounds like something choppers need.

Anyone got a shag bag full of spare practice spare balls?
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Posted 13 March 2016 - 06:42 AM

I had had lessons when I first started playing (in fact I had lessons before I hit a ball on the course).

I approached my lessons with the philosophy that my coach knew everything and why should I question his knowledge.

 

Drilling his advice in to me makes it easy to get back to the basics when returning from a layoff.  Which I am about to do now.

 

But there are lessons, and there are lessons.  Having the perfect looking stroke does not make you a master at getting around the course and staying out of trouble.  That's where the big scores are



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Posted 16 March 2016 - 05:59 AM

I had a lesson this morning. Really the first proper individual lesson I have ever had so I didn't really know what to expect.

-Slight ball position change for driver and fairway woods
-Lowering of tee height for driver. 
-Got told categorically that I was not allowed to use my current 3 wood or 3 hybrid anymore as they are too soft in the shaft which causes issues with my other clubs.

Was hitting them pure after about 5 minutes and the pro is lending me his 3 wood for the weekend so I don't have to use my old one. 

No more hooks for me. 



 

 

take a visit to see golfguy, and get the shaft flex checked,

 

then set up 3w head and hybrid with same flex as driver.


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Posted 16 March 2016 - 06:15 AM

take a visit to see golfguy, and get the shaft flex checked,
 
then set up 3w head and hybrid with same flex as driver.


Was thinking about doing that. Not sure what i want yet.

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 02:44 PM

Was thinking about doing that. Not sure what i want yet.


And you won't know until you get proper advice from an expert. Then you can decide, based on appropriate parameters.

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Posted 16 March 2016 - 03:24 PM

And you won't know until you get proper advice from an expert. Then you can decide, based on appropriate parameters.

I've already had advice from our Head Pro and have used demo clubs that suit my specs, it's just whether I want to go all out and get the perfect shaft/heads (visiting John/PureForm) or if I want to get something that will be suitable enough off the shelf. 



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Posted 19 March 2016 - 09:19 PM

I had a lesson at yarrabend... Worse thing I ever did. I just went back through my golf link and can see the 6 months after I saw him. Utter rubbish.
I started getting a little better then started getting lessons from a young Friend who is a student of the guy I had my first lesson from.
Since October I have dropped from 16.8 to 12.5 just from working on one thing at a time.
It's been really helpful just being able to ask a question whenever we play which is usually twice a week and he is super clear on what needs to be done. all it costs me is a few caddy rounds a year which I enjoy anyway.




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