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#496 Weetbix

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Posted 04 May 2018 - 06:02 PM

Interesting thesis

My partner has bad discs in her back - should she look as golf to help her? Never expected to hear that idea!
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Posted 04 May 2018 - 09:21 PM

Hey dude, it has been a while. I'm in Queanbeyan these days, although getting back to Qld is still a priority.

 

Golf is still my passion. although I'm not playing a lot these days, I do practice a couple of times a week and I have finally sorted out my 1 plane swing.

 

These days I have arthritis all down the left of my spine, so that's a bit problematic. I use golf as Therapy, the reason for perfecting the 1 plane swing. A 2 plane swing puts way to much stress on backs and hips. 

 

I have a patent in the wind, a golf training aid. I can't say any more right now, but its an interesting device. If I told you about it I'd have to kill you... lol 

 

I'm in the process of rewriting a thesis about using Golf to as Pain Therapy. Monash Uni are sort of interested in that one... it's hard to write a thesis with a bad back.

 

We've adopted a young Galah, he's a rescue, and a real character. 

 

There's no work in Canberra. so that's a pain in the arse. After moving back here, I found out No jobs down here unless you are a pro because of insurance issues. They have different insurance requirements... so money is the reason we haven't moved back to Qld.

 

How about you?

So back from whence you came eh..  Does the training aid help in getting a swing that helps those with a bad back, as I am in a similar boat as yourself.  Mate my golf is at the same level it was/has been for the passed 6-7 years.  Very sporadic with moments of brilliance, well acceptable at best with way much more fark me moments.  


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Posted 05 May 2018 - 12:06 AM

Fark the 72 wedge... they have beer putt
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Posted 05 May 2018 - 07:07 PM

Fark the 72 wedge... they have beer putt
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Posted 06 May 2018 - 05:28 AM

Interesting thesis

My partner has bad discs in her back - should she look as golf to help her? Never expected to hear that idea!

I won't suggest reading my thesis yet. Umm it's a lot of reading, although sort of an interesting read. I'm not happy with it yet. I started writing it as a golf thing. Then switched to a pain thing. then I thought Universities wouldn't be interested in it, however Monash has a pain thing happening these days. They are partnering with a private pain company to do some heavy research into pain management. So it needs to be re-written to suit an academic audience as opposed to a blog type audience. Does that make sense?

But yes golf is the lynchpin of my thesis. Golf is a full body workout that stretches the spine, "high rotation. low impact" that's what golf is. 

However, to take advantage of the full body release golf can provide you have to make the swing neutral. No TWISTING..... TW has the rather interesting situation of 4 fused discs at the base of his spine, the last 4. This is what happens when you use the classic 2 plane swing. Basically taking the club outside on the backswing, then coming inside to impact. 

You can also have those 4 discs fused, or bolted together, as my friend Michael when he broke his back. He can't bend either. TW has a funny finish these days because of the fusion. He is still trying to twist his spine. sad....

I am using a totally neutral grip these days. This gives me access to a one plane swing. No twisting, no back pain from going to the range. If I have back pain, I know I'm slipping back to bad old 2 plane habits. And You have to SWING LEFT HANDED SOMETIMES...  I yell because I forget myself how important this is to good healthy golf.

Because my shoulder is my issue, not my spine, I bowl cricket balls at my son too. This loosens my shoulder up. Once I've bowled at him, I try to hit golf balls, that loosens up my spine, which is the result of putting stress on my shoulder bowling. 

This is what my thesis is about too. Learning how to listen to what my body is telling me. My body says, "bowl cricket balls because my shoulder is sore." then it says "hit some golf balls now because my spine is sore." Listening to what your body has to say. 

I also have a Massage, Pilates, Yoga routine that fixes my various ailments. But in the end it's golf that stretches my whole body, and releases the pain. 

I use massage to start the conversation. I use Pilates to reach the bits that I need to massage, and Yoga helps with strength. One day I'll do some weights again, but I'm still fixing a 30+ year old injury and the shoulder is being stubborn, but we get along better these days.


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Posted 06 May 2018 - 06:17 AM

Good read Thanks Cliffmanley



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Posted 06 May 2018 - 07:50 AM

I won't suggest reading my thesis yet. Umm it's a lot of reading, although sort of an interesting read. I'm not happy with it yet. I started writing it as a golf thing. Then switched to a pain thing. then I thought Universities wouldn't be interested in it, however Monash has a pain thing happening these days. They are partnering with a private pain company to do some heavy research into pain management. So it needs to be re-written to suit an academic audience as opposed to a blog type audience. Does that make sense?
But yes golf is the lynchpin of my thesis. Golf is a full body workout that stretches the spine, "high rotation. low impact" that's what golf is.
However, to take advantage of the full body release golf can provide you have to make the swing neutral. No TWISTING..... TW has the rather interesting situation of 4 fused discs at the base of his spine, the last 4. This is what happens when you use the classic 2 plane swing. Basically taking the club outside on the backswing, then coming inside to impact.
You can also have those 4 discs fused, or bolted together, as my friend Michael when he broke his back. He can't bend either. TW has a funny finish these days because of the fusion. He is still trying to twist his spine. sad....
I am using a totally neutral grip these days. This gives me access to a one plane swing. No twisting, no back pain from going to the range. If I have back pain, I know I'm slipping back to bad old 2 plane habits. And You have to SWING LEFT HANDED SOMETIMES... I yell because I forget myself how important this is to good healthy golf.
Because my shoulder is my issue, not my spine, I bowl cricket balls at my son too. This loosens my shoulder up. Once I've bowled at him, I try to hit golf balls, that loosens up my spine, which is the result of putting stress on my shoulder bowling.
This is what my thesis is about too. Learning how to listen to what my body is telling me. My body says, "bowl cricket balls because my shoulder is sore." then it says "hit some golf balls now because my spine is sore." Listening to what your body has to say.
I also have a Massage, Pilates, Yoga routine that fixes my various ailments. But in the end it's golf that stretches my whole body, and releases the pain.
I use massage to start the conversation. I use Pilates to reach the bits that I need to massage, and Yoga helps with strength. One day I'll do some weights again, but I'm still fixing a 30+ year old injury and the shoulder is being stubborn, but we get along better these days.


Good stuff.

Keeps us updated and let us know when the paper is available to read, or review (if you want input).

I've found my lower back is sore, stiff and aches when it is NOT used. Going to the range every day, or at least every few days really helps to keep it free.

Right now, I'm aching, sore and know I need to get it moving... I'm hopeless at stretching and other exercise. Never liked it, but, I'm happy to do something like swing a golf club.

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 03:31 PM

Good stuff.

Keeps us updated and let us know when the paper is available to read, or review (if you want input).

I've found my lower back is sore, stiff and aches when it is NOT used. Going to the range every day, or at least every few days really helps to keep it free.

Right now, I'm aching, sore and know I need to get it moving... I'm hopeless at stretching and other exercise. Never liked it, but, I'm happy to do something like swing a golf club.

Ten days ago I jammed my left knee in a steel filing cabinet drawer. This knee is lacking in nerves due to a close encounter with the Cotter Road in '92 (72 stitches) so I didn't feel a lot, but it was damaged, the bruising was nasty. 

 

Treated it immediately with ice. It caused a response in the outside of my right shoulder, C3 in the neck, inside the left shoulder, and the left ribs. Nasty, it took me 2 days of rest. massage and stretching to fix those issues. I then hit the golf clubs, played one hole, twice, but it resulted in my left calf going out or tearing, whatever you like. That took 2 days to fix, with both days hitting golf balls.

 

The calf is still problematic, but its the start of some very cold weather in Canberra and I'm feeling it... I took Gandalf the Pink galah down the river before lunch and had a par on My River hole. First Par... but the calf is sore again. That tells me the knee isn't quite fixed yet. Ten days is not enough I suppose

 

this is the first serious injury I've had since starting out three years ago to repair my body, and the system works. I suppose I needed this to confirm my theories. I'm a bit over being my own guinea pig though...

 

I will get back to you with a new draft soon, you can give me some feedback. That would be nice.


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Posted 08 June 2018 - 03:59 PM

rebal sports

 

have got underarmour golf shoes  going dirt cheap online 

 

underarmour speith one  was $200 is now down to $100

 

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 04:21 PM

rebal sports

 

have got underarmour golf shoes  going dirt cheap online 

 

underarmour speith one  was $200 is now down to $100

 

http://www.rebelspor...ummaryPurchases

 

Thanks Ozdevil,

 

Checked it out but very limited sizes - great if you are about a US7.


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Posted 08 June 2018 - 04:46 PM

Are the UA shoes more narrow or wide fit?  Comparison to a FJ Hyperflex

 

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 05:16 PM

Thanks Ozdevil,

 

Checked it out but very limited sizes - great if you are about a US7.

 

didnt take much notice of sizes they had...  was just browsing and noticed them


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Posted 08 June 2018 - 08:02 PM

Interesting thesis
My partner has bad discs in her back - should she look as golf to help her? Never expected to hear that idea!

Wheatie, I hurt my back years ago, by using a lifting motion above my head. Everybody heard my back pop. Well that was day 1 of an annual golf tournament, went to the gp, he did manipulation and stretching remedies. Told me to rest, then two days later I was warming up on the first tee, turn round and see the doc giving me the death stares. Thing was, it didn’t hurt to swing a club, just hurt to lift.

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Posted 09 June 2018 - 12:35 AM

Wheatie, I hurt my back years ago, by using a lifting motion above my head. Everybody heard my back pop. Well that was day 1 of an annual golf tournament, went to the gp, he did manipulation and stretching remedies. Told me to rest, then two days later I was warming up on the first tee, turn round and see the doc giving me the death stares. Thing was, it didn’t hurt to swing a club, just hurt to lift.

What were you lifting? A giant penis? You're only supposed to lift that to mouth level dude....

That's what inky reckons anyways.

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Posted 09 June 2018 - 02:19 AM

Wheatie, I hurt my back years ago, by using a lifting motion above my head. Everybody heard my back pop. Well that was day 1 of an annual golf tournament, went to the gp, he did manipulation and stretching remedies. Told me to rest, then two days later I was warming up on the first tee, turn round and see the doc giving me the death stares. Thing was, it didn’t hurt to swing a club, just hurt to lift.

hmmm doctors know nothing about pain management. If you assume this, life gets easier. Who knows about pain? YOU know about your pain, not the doctor. They know drugs, and rest, and if you ask they'll give you a referral to a specialist of your choice. Doctors understand injury. Back Pain is not the injury it never is. Pain doesn't mean Damage and Damage doesn't mean Pain. They are just indicators. Pointers to the real problem somewhere else. 

Tell me what Dr is going to prescribe Golf for an injured knee. Well it fixed my injured knee and pointed me towards the real problem.

My Judy (pain specialist) just says. "as long as you keep moving I don't care what it is." Doctors are good for Referrals not much else. Injections. needles, operations. that's all they understand, and sometimes it works. not very often.

I know this sounds lame, but you have to learn to listen to your body. To manage Pain that won't go away, figure out what your body is trying to tell you. It isn't easy at times. but at other times it is simple. 

My body tells me when it NEEDS to go play some golf, so I do. It's taken me a few years, but now I can see the pain when I'm treating it. Little spots of light appear when I massage my body with my eyes closed. they appear, as I begin and as I work they disappear along with the pain.

Communication. It's your body, you just need to hear what it's telling you.


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