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Posted 16 January 2017 - 03:22 PM

I did the driver fitting and wasn't terribly enthralled. But that's probably my fault.

The recommendation based on 3 swings was on average 6m more carry and 4m more run. That was with an attack angle of around -5 deg with both the existing and proposed driver combo. I still don't know if the M2 head or the GD shaft made the difference. Not a lot for $800.

What I do know is that fixing my attack angle by getting rid of the OTT swing gets me more than 10m. When I get it right I can tell by the ball flight that the spin is a lot less than the normal 3,000+.

I would've been very impressed had he said after 5 mins, you're wasting your time and money go get you swing fixed and then come back. He is a former teaching pro and so knew the issues.

I hadn't set any budget and really don't have one if I can get an oh wow result. The shaft recommended is very much at the cheap end $200 which was pleasing as I had expected an expensive exotic option to be offered.

Once my swing is fixed I'll jump on Coach's trackman and see the new numbers. If they represent the improvement I expect then I'll treat myself to a new driver.

I'll talk to coach and to Jon about shaft choices and then spend the money. I quite like the M2 head so will buy a used one and then stick an appropriate shaft in there.

One interesting comment was that Ping produce spinny heads. Opinion from Coach was that mere mortals would never know the differences as they are so small.

I also thought that kick point varied a lot but I'm lead to believe it's only about 4cm between high and low.

Moral of the story is the bleeding obvious. Don't go to Pureform if your swing is crap with driver, metals, irons or putter. Fix the swing first and then get fitted.

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Posted 16 January 2017 - 05:44 PM

Moral of the story is that when you go to a club fitting, they will recommend the best (in their opinion) setup for you.... 

 

I appreciate that you like to tinker Mouldy, but in all seriousness, your issues are not club fitting related. 


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Posted 17 January 2017 - 09:39 AM

An attack angle of around -5 deg is great ...... if you have an iron in your hand .. not so good with driver ;)


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Posted 17 January 2017 - 09:49 AM

Interesting that many people only talk distance gains with driver/iron fittings.

The cost per metre gained clearly comes across as a poor investment.

 

What if they set ups they recommended provided far better dispersion/accuracy?

How much is that worth to us all?


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Posted 17 January 2017 - 11:13 AM

Interesting that many people only talk distance gains with driver/iron fittings.
The cost per metre gained clearly comes across as a poor investment.

What if they set ups they recommended provided far better dispersion/accuracy?
How much is that worth to us all?


Thats were the skillz of the fitter comes in.
With my 3w fitting, there were longer clubs, but nothing matched the averages of dispersion and distance that i got with my recomemended club

Irons was a little different, was only after distance as dispersion hasnt really been an issue
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Posted 20 January 2017 - 12:14 PM

I did the driver fitting and wasn't terribly enthralled. But that's probably my fault.

The recommendation based on 3 swings was on average 6m more carry and 4m more run. That was with an attack angle of around -5 deg with both the existing and proposed driver combo. I still don't know if the M2 head or the GD shaft made the difference. Not a lot for $800.

What I do know is that fixing my attack angle by getting rid of the OTT swing gets me more than 10m. When I get it right I can tell by the ball flight that the spin is a lot less than the normal 3,000+.

I would've been very impressed had he said after 5 mins, you're wasting your time and money go get you swing fixed and then come back. He is a former teaching pro and so knew the issues.

I hadn't set any budget and really don't have one if I can get an oh wow result. The shaft recommended is very much at the cheap end $200 which was pleasing as I had expected an expensive exotic option to be offered.

Once my swing is fixed I'll jump on Coach's trackman and see the new numbers. If they represent the improvement I expect then I'll treat myself to a new driver.

I'll talk to coach and to Jon about shaft choices and then spend the money. I quite like the M2 head so will buy a used one and then stick an appropriate shaft in there.

One interesting comment was that Ping produce spinny heads. Opinion from Coach was that mere mortals would never know the differences as they are so small.

I also thought that kick point varied a lot but I'm lead to believe it's only about 4cm between high and low.

Moral of the story is the bleeding obvious. Don't go to Pureform if your swing is crap with driver, metals, irons or putter. Fix the swing first and then get fitted.

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coach has a range of heads and shaft combinations you can try at the PGA learning centre, in conjunction with trackman to give you the numbers.

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 02:53 PM

Quick update, I managed to secure the shaft recommended by Pureform for my driver, used but at a very attractive price of $100 (with grip and adapter installed, no FLO'ed), instead of the quoted price at $300. At $100, I am quite happy to take the punt if the shaft doesn't perform like what happened during the fitting. Now to be fair to Pureform, their pricing do match big stores like Drummond and quite competitive to Ebay prices if you are buying new.

 

Went to a simulator near my place and confirmed that the distance gained during the fitting at ~7-8 percent is quite accurate, so pretty happy with the overall result.

 

Wonder if I could use a cheaper shaft with similar weight, torque and flight and still get the same performance like the premium shaft,... time for some experimentation in the future...


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Posted 25 January 2017 - 06:24 PM

$100 is cheap for an aftermarket shaft

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 08:03 PM

Yes, the shaft that fit for me luckily is an old model so price has dropped to around $250, even in US Ebay new it is around $200ish.



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 08:07 PM

I did the driver fitting and wasn't terribly enthralled. But that's probably my fault.

The recommendation based on 3 swings was on average 6m more carry and 4m more run. That was with an attack angle of around -5 deg with both the existing and proposed driver combo. I still don't know if the M2 head or the GD shaft made the difference. Not a lot for $800.

What I do know is that fixing my attack angle by getting rid of the OTT swing gets me more than 10m. When I get it right I can tell by the ball flight that the spin is a lot less than the normal 3,000+.

I would've been very impressed had he said after 5 mins, you're wasting your time and money go get you swing fixed and then come back. He is a former teaching pro and so knew the issues.

I hadn't set any budget and really don't have one if I can get an oh wow result. The shaft recommended is very much at the cheap end $200 which was pleasing as I had expected an expensive exotic option to be offered.

Once my swing is fixed I'll jump on Coach's trackman and see the new numbers. If they represent the improvement I expect then I'll treat myself to a new driver.

I'll talk to coach and to Jon about shaft choices and then spend the money. I quite like the M2 head so will buy a used one and then stick an appropriate shaft in there.

One interesting comment was that Ping produce spinny heads. Opinion from Coach was that mere mortals would never know the differences as they are so small.

I also thought that kick point varied a lot but I'm lead to believe it's only about 4cm between high and low.

Moral of the story is the bleeding obvious. Don't go to Pureform if your swing is crap with driver, metals, irons or putter. Fix the swing first and then get fitted.

Sometimes the angle of attack can be steep because the player is trying to stop the ball going left (for a right hander). They subconciously move the ball back in the stance and stop releasing the club. The new Taylor Made M1 is being offered in a 56 degree lie angle. It should allow you to move the ball forward in the stance and give a full arm and hand release flattening the angle of attack. Or try a shorter club nearer to 44 inches. Same problem with the fairway woods and hybrids. Clubfitters have said for years that lie angle doesn't matter for drivers and putters because of the lack of the loft but as soon as that toe goes up in the air the club will spin around the heel. 

Obviously I haven't seen your swing Mouldy but might be worth looking at.



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Posted 17 February 2017 - 05:15 AM

Sometimes the angle of attack can be steep because the player is trying to stop the ball going left (for a right hander). They subconciously move the ball back in the stance and stop releasing the club. The new Taylor Made M1 is being offered in a 56 degree lie angle. It should allow you to move the ball forward in the stance and give a full arm and hand release flattening the angle of attack. Or try a shorter club nearer to 44 inches. Same problem with the fairway woods and hybrids. Clubfitters have said for years that lie angle doesn't matter for drivers and putters because of the lack of the loft but as soon as that toe goes up in the air the club will spin around the heel. 
Obviously I haven't seen your swing Mouldy but might be worth looking at.


You dont want to see Moudsters swing.
Its like a dog rooting a cricket ball.

Or maybe thats mine. I forget
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Posted 17 February 2017 - 06:51 AM

You dont want to see Moudsters swing.
Its like a dog rooting a cricket ball.

Or maybe thats mine. I forget

The dog or the cricket ball?

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 09:08 AM

You dont want to see Moudsters swing.
Its like a dog rooting a cricket ball.

Or maybe thats mine. I forget


Are you the cricket ball in this analogy?
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Posted 17 February 2017 - 11:09 AM

Are you the cricket ball in this analogy?


I really hope not




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