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#901 Tochakka

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Posted 09 June 2018 - 08:06 PM

It’s sad to see when media personality can’t handle life anymore and we will never know why he decided to take his own life.
Maybe his demons finally won their battle and it’s left the rest of us wondering why but one thing is certain the sun will rise tomorrow and life will go on and some will win the battle and some will lose the battle but if we can help someone to win the battle then that’s all we can do.
I guess it’s another reminder to use all the resources available when life seems to get too tough.
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Posted 09 June 2018 - 08:20 PM

Maybe it's for the best. If he was so troubled and felt he could not go on in peace, at least it brought his pain to an end. 



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Posted 09 June 2018 - 08:31 PM

Right on the back of Kate Spade ending her own life.

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Posted 09 June 2018 - 09:28 PM

For all the celebrities we hear about how many happen that we don’t hear about??
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Posted 09 June 2018 - 10:17 PM

For all the celebrities we hear about how many happen that we don’t hear about??


Lots.... 14 in NSW since Tuesday. No idea about the rest of the country.

Loved this bloke for the upfront, no bullshi t way he did his programs. From what I have read about him today, seems a lot of the warning signs were there in interviews he did, but nobody really picked up on it or just didn't read the signs.
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Posted 10 June 2018 - 08:31 AM

Lots.... 14 in NSW since Tuesday. No idea about the rest of the country.

Loved this bloke for the upfront, no bullshi t way he did his programs. From what I have read about him today, seems a lot of the warning signs were there in interviews he did, but nobody really picked up on it or just didn't read the signs.

serious on 14 in past week??

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Posted 10 June 2018 - 08:43 AM

It's 14 too many.

Wonder what the demographics are... Gender, ages.

Any is bad, but if teenagers, that's horrid.

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Posted 10 June 2018 - 09:07 AM

serious on 14 in past week??

 

Yep.... 14 in 5 days across NSW.


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Posted 10 June 2018 - 09:08 AM

It's 14 too many.

Wonder what the demographics are... Gender, ages.

Any is bad, but if teenagers, that's horrid.

 

Don't know the demographic... just the figures.  


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Posted 10 June 2018 - 10:20 PM

Yep.... 14 in 5 days across NSW.

Does that extrapolate for the year or just a tragic period ?

How do we get governments to acknowledge that mental health is in crisis mode ?
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Posted 11 June 2018 - 08:59 AM

Mouldy, that is a bit higher than the yearly average. In NSW, there have been about 800 deaths from suicide per year in the last few years. Males account for three times as many deaths from suicide than females. The most represented group is males aged 45-54.



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Posted 11 June 2018 - 04:01 PM

Does that extrapolate for the year or just a tragic period ?

How do we get governments to acknowledge that mental health is in crisis mode ?

 

That I believe is just a real bad period.   There could be 2 one week,  6 the next, then none, then something like the 14.  As goom has posted the average yearly figures can be found within the ABS website and others like Lifeline.   


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:00 AM

I saw this on a page of someone who has had their heart ripped out by the black dog..... This person didn't write it but shared it from another

 

Now Anthony Bourdain.
When you have depression it’s like it snows every day.
Some days it’s only a couple of inches. It’s a pain in the ass, but you still make it to work, the grocery store. Sure, maybe you skip the gym or your friend’s birthday party,
but it IS still snowing and who knows how bad it might get tonight. Probably better to just head home. Your friend notices, but probably just thinks you are flaky now, or kind of an *******.
Some days it snows a foot. You spend an hour shoveling out your driveway and are late to work. Your back and hands hurt from shoveling. You leave early because it’s really coming down out there. Your boss notices.
Some days it snows four feet. You shovel all morning but your street never gets plowed. You are not making it to work, or anywhere else for that matter. You are so sore and tired you just get back in the bed. By the time you wake up, all your shoveling has filled back in with snow. Looks like your phone rang; people are wondering where you are. You don’t feel like calling them back, too tired from all the shoveling. Plus they don’t get this much snow at their house so they don’t understand why you’re still stuck at home. They just think you’re lazy or weak, although they rarely come out and say it.
Some weeks it’s a full-blown blizzard. When you open your door, it’s to a wall of snow. The power flickers, then goes out. It’s too cold to sit in the living room anymore, so you get back into bed with all your clothes on. The stove and microwave won’t work so you eat a cold Pop Tart and call that dinner. You haven’t taken a shower in three days, but how could you at this point? You’re too cold to do anything except sleep.
Sometimes people get snowed in for the winter. The cold seeps in. No communication in or out. The food runs out. What can you even do, tunnel out of a forty foot snow bank with your hands? How far away is help? Can you even get there in a blizzard? If you do, can they even help you at this point? Maybe it’s death to stay here, but it’s death to go out there too.
The thing is, when it snows all the time, you get worn all the way down. You get tired of being cold. You get tired of hurting all the time from shoveling, but if you don’t shovel on the light days, it builds up to something unmanageable on the heavy days. You resent the hell out of the snow, but it doesn’t care, it’s just a blind chemistry, an act of nature. It carries on regardless, unconcerned and unaware if it buries you or the whole world.
Also, the snow builds up in other areas, places you can’t shovel, sometimes places you can’t even see. Maybe it’s on the roof. Maybe it’s on the mountain behind the house. Sometimes, there’s an avalanche that blows the house right off its foundation and takes you with it. A veritable Act of God, nothing can be done. The neighbors say it’s a shame and they can’t understand it; he was doing so well with his shoveling.
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I don’t know how it went down for Anthony Bourdain or Kate Spade. It seems like they got hit by the avalanche, but it could’ve been the long, slow winter. Maybe they were keeping up with their shoveling. Maybe they weren’t. Sometimes, shoveling isn’t enough anyway. It’s hard to tell from the outside, but it’s important to understand what it’s like from the inside.
I firmly believe that understanding and compassion have to be the base of effective action. It’s important to understand what depression is, how it feels, what it’s like to live with it, so you can help people both on an individual basis and a policy basis. I’m not putting heavy **** out here to make your Friday morning suck. I know it feels gross to read it, and realistically it can be unpleasant to be around it, that’s why people pull away.
I don’t have a message for people with depression like “keep shoveling”. It’s asinine. Of course you’re going to keep shoveling the best you can, until you physically can’t, because who wants to freeze to death inside their own house? We know what the stakes are. My message is to everyone else. Grab a ******* shovel and help your neighbor. Slap a mini snow plow on the front of your truck and plow your neighborhood. Petition the city council to buy more salt trucks, so to speak.
Depression is blind chemistry and physics, like snow. And like the weather, it is a mindless process, powerful and unpredictable with great potential for harm. But like climate change, that doesn’t mean we are helpless. If we want to stop losing so many people to this disease, it will require action at every level.
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Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:16 PM

I reckon the key is people helping each other...

My analogy, which I think I posted here before, is like turning up at a car crash, driver slumped over the steering wheel. Just the simple act of gently lifting the drivers head may be all that's needed to get them breathing again. But, many people are afraid they'll break the drivers neck and get sued...

Truth is you won't, and can't. But, could very well save a life.

Helping someone you think has depression is the same, in my opinion and experience. Sure, we aren't qualified but just extending concern can be enough for the person to not take their life.

Surely it's worth the risk, uncomfortable feeling, unknown to just ask are you ok mate? Then listen and help them get help. Take them to hospital if need be, stay with them, whatever...

We've gotta look out for each other, our mates, our families.
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