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Pro v Amateur Trajectory
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+1, Great post Razaar :)
You are wrong mate. The feet and legs power the pivot which powers the shoulders which swing the arms to which the club is attached. The hands grip the club so they are part of the club. It is how we use the body that gets the clubhead on the ball that gets the result.
The man who hits at the ball rather than through it has no sense of rhythm.
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Posted 21 December 2012 - 02:11 AM
Yes mate, the bottom line is technique which relates to how we use our body. The limbs are included in body. I know what you mean, it is just that the contact that these pros get originates in the feet and explodes in the clubhead collision with the pill. If you have noticed Davis Love's walk, there is a real bounce from the balls of his feet and instep. This is the bounce that these guys feel during the swing only that it is directed laterally by the same foot muscles. It has been described as the ground moving under the feet during weight shift.
Was that directed at me Raz?
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Auh angle of attack it does not effect the ball compression either. Forward lean does not effect ball compression either. Forward lean nor angle of attack changes the amount of spin rate either. It can change the axis tilt of the ball although it does not change the amount of spin produce. All the angle of attack does is it can effect the direction of flight. Although if the Vertical plane and vertical face match this counsels out the effects of the angle of attack you get square delivery of speed at the ball. Tour tour players already have good compression, the squarer the collision the more energy is imparted on the ball. The straighter the ball travels the further it goes. The aim is for a perfect horizontal spin axis. Tsdean could got an improve his angle of attack and I bet any money he will not get the same trajectory as a tour player does. This explains how to get optimal distance and ball flight Club dynamics
I’d love to hear you describe how i am “wrong” about reduced spin loft and compression.
You’ll get no argument from me about efficient sequencing resulting in increased club head speed…. but that’s not what the OP was inquiring about.
The query was around ‘pro’ trajectory – i.e. lower with the short irons, greater distance for any given club versus an amateur with similar club head speed, etc.
and the answer to that is almost purely swing mechanics and in particular, hand path… you can have the greatest sequencing on earth, light up every kinetic link measuring device on the planet and have elite level club head speed at impact.. but if your angle of attack is steep, you ain’t getting ‘pro’ ball flight.. and the pros will hit it further than you.
The low point of the hands in the swings of pros happens well before impact (around about when they pass the rear leg from a front on view)... by the time the club head hits the ball, the hands are travelling up… this results in a reduction in attack angle, which combined with forward shaft lean, in turn results in less spin loft for any given club… in other words, less ‘glancing’ blow… or more ‘flush’ contact… or higher smash factor… whatever you choose to call it.
So i’m keen to hear how i am “wrong”... and feel free to use something a little more tangible than the bounce in Davis Love’s walk.
Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:58 AM
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