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#1 Devongolfer

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 04:46 AM

razaar, you mentioned Abe a few times in the HK thread. Who is / was he, what’s his thing, what is it about his methods or his explanations that appeals to you? thanks

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 06:23 AM

He was recognised as the best golfer in the world in many people's opinion during the mid 1920s to the early 1930s. He was a British professional golfer who Samuel Ryder engaged to teach golf. It is Abe's image on the Ryder Cup. Mitchell was considered the longest hitter of his day and was referred to as the bane of British golf because of his cut- off follow through which finished at hip height. Many tried to copy his swing but failed. It was later touted that only a player with exceptionally strong hands could emulate his follow through. He considered himself a hitter of the ball rather than a swinger. His version of a hitter is arm torque in the backswing with the trail forearm advanced on the elbow at the top of the swing. His books are a blue print on the essential movements of the golf swing for an efficient swing. Defined as the maximum output for the least amount of effort. The effort is all in the backswing building torque through resistance and establishing resistance in the target side for the through swing. I put a few paragraphs in your thread, which provided a brief overview of his method.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 09:16 PM

Abe Mitchell 1 Abe Mitchell 2

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:21 PM

maybe a great swing........I just dont think our young-guns are quite ready for Abes swing.............just saying

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:34 PM

Devon, I've got the PDF of down to scratch if you want it.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 04:06 AM

Ill have a look at it VC email it over pal

#7 Devongolfer

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 04:18 AM

Devon, I’ve got the PDF of down to scratch if you want it.

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I'd be interested as well, thanks

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 08:20 AM

Devon, I’ve got the PDF of down to scratch if you want it.

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Me too please vinum. razaar has sent me some but I like the full story.

#9 Ignoramus

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 08:53 AM

Down to Scratch follows The Essentials of Golf, which is the introduction to the swing and essential movements. TheEssentials.. should be read first before D t S, which is written for the advanced golfer. Dart If you want the full story, I'd recommend you purchase a reprint of The Essentials of Golf. It is an important work in written instruction.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 02:22 PM

Abe Mitchell 1
Abe Mitchell 2

Natty dresser! Maybe Stinkler will dress this way for the next iseek comp... He appears to be a 'masher' or a 'squasher'... Pretty efficient. All of the energy is expended at impact. Not much spine tilt, especially in the finish. Kind of a bigger version of Stan Utley's chipping technique. Doubt he was a high ball hitter... probably had quite a bit of run on his drives.

#11 Ignoramus

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 05:40 PM

His stock shot was a fade. He set up with the driver with an open stance and shoulders square to the line of flight. He was really big on this. All his normal shots were pinched, including the driver for maximum carry and control. The attractive thing for me in his writings is the depth he goes to in explaining the essentials of his method. Basically it is the square to square swing which appeared in the 1960's . Joe Dante's book 'The four magic moves to winning golf" is a more modern day slant on Mitchell's works without the depth.

#12 vinum_coupe

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 11:05 PM

Ill have a look at it VC

email it over pal

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#13 vinum_coupe

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 11:06 PM

Devon, I’ve got the PDF of down to scratch if you want it.

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Me too please vinum. razaar has sent me some but I like the full story.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 11:07 PM

Devon, I’ve got the PDF of down to scratch if you want it.

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I’d be interested as well, thanks

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 11:11 PM

Interesting swing Razzar, He dumps his energy on the ball, his swing intergues me, the noise is like a whip cracking. Can you send me some info Razzar be interested to read more than I have about him.

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:19 AM

Hi Vinum, Could I trouble you for a copy as well? Thanks Jack

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:26 AM

yeah sure, send me an email.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 02:51 AM

Down to Scratch was too big to email. Here it is for download. I'll leave it up for a few weeks. https://docs.google....eVg3djVpVENmd2c

#19 Devongolfer

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 03:18 PM

Essentials of Golf arrived today. For a book produced in 1927, I think this is very good. I can see why razaar holds Abe in high regard. I really like his analogy; comparing learning the golf swing to that of a child learning to read. The meaning and the interpretation of a full sentence (the full swing) only comes after you have mastered the meaning first of letters, then of words. I think that is a good point, well made. Zen would have little argument with Abe, since Abe talks about the power coming from the legs and torso, rather than from hands and arms. I imagine this book was very influential in its day, but of course today it also contains a few anachronisms, like the advice to use your mashie niblick to get out of a stymie if the opponent's ball is close to the hole! :) Respect to Abe, but a book that will only be of historical interest for me.

#20 Ignoramus

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:13 PM

I see your logic as I felt the same when I bought mine as a collectible many years ago.




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