Moving loose grass from off the green.
Posted 28 January 2012 - 08:09 AM
Posted 28 January 2012 - 08:24 AM
Posted 28 January 2012 - 08:29 AM
Posted 28 January 2012 - 09:06 AM
Posted 28 January 2012 - 09:20 AM
If 'these' (in the preceding sentence) refers to the grass clippings, your sentence is incorrect. Loose impediments may be removed in accordance with Rule 23-1 which, in most cases, would include removing them from the line of play or line of putt. I say 'most cases' because of Rule 13-4c.
mark is correct.
Loose sand or soil is a loose impediment on the putting green, but not elsewhere.
Grass clippings piled for removal would have to be a bulk collection of clippings gathered in one place by a greenkeeper, not the wind/rain.
Loose clippings which have blown about and collected in one area are loose impediments if they are neither
(a) fixed and growing, or
(b) solidly imbedded, or
© adhering to the ball,
whether through the green or elsewhere.
These can be removed from about your ball but not from your line of play or line of putt, except on the putting green.
I didn’t see the situation, but Rory’s penalty should have been two strokes for improving his line of play by removing sand from it, as loose sand is not a loose impediment elsewhere than on the putting green.
Posted 28 January 2012 - 03:18 PM
Posted 28 January 2012 - 03:57 PM
Are you suggesting that the Rules of Golf are flawed unless everyone, regardless of how much effort he has made to learn those rules, understands them?
I think all of this goes back to an earlier thread I started re the complexity of Golf Rules, seems like we have differing opinions re the above issue. Golf should not be this hard for all to understand but it is as there are so many rules and then sub sections of those rules.
Local Rules have existed for hundreds of years (and some golfers have and will always fail to read them).
Then on top of that different tours have different rules covering the same issue, example small stones in the bunkers. On Euro Tour you can remove them, on US Tour you cannot (if that is still the case) and I have seen this cause Pros penalties when they forget the rule changes when they move from one tour to the next.
Posted 28 January 2012 - 07:01 PM
Posted 28 January 2012 - 07:34 PM
Posted 28 January 2012 - 08:43 PM
Posted 28 January 2012 - 08:50 PM
Posted 28 January 2012 - 09:05 PM
Posted 28 January 2012 - 09:13 PM
Is there another sport with such a big rules book ? I cannot think of one.Unlike other sports it's impractical in golf to have referees in the middle of all action so players must take on most of that responsibility themselves. That's a conflict of interest which can only be handled by having a complete set of rules eliminating subjectivity as much as possible. Is there any other sport that is played in such a large arena with players spread everywhere, who at any time, even when walking between shots, can gain a substantial unfair advantage?
Posted 28 January 2012 - 09:19 PM
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