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#1 ellimb

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 06:43 AM

Hi ISGolters Any one contested a speeding ticket in court ? What's the Pros and Cons on contesting this in court ? I was booked at a steep slope 77 kmh at a 60 km zone. And there is a steep UP slope at the bottom of this road in Tindals Rd., Donvale. Any one driving down this steep slope will speed unless keeping a care full foot on the brake ! Any one care to suggest idea to mitigate the fine ? Chees.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 06:52 AM

The courts will not accept an excuse you were going down hill. This is when the brake should be used most. Annoying I know. Paying the ticket seems the only option and probably the right thing to do. Dcee

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 06:53 AM

A bit of light reading from a similar post:- http://forums.iseekg...l-officers-here

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 06:55 AM

good luck mate, never contested one meself but it can be done. Was it ACA last night where people were pleading their case because they had a clean record for several years and got off because of that? One woman copped a speeding fine and wrote to the dept saying it was her 1st offence for 5 or so years and they waived the fine and issued her with a warning instead. Keep us posted.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 06:56 AM

I got hit in the Burnley tunnel when they had road works (adjusted to 60 ks instead of the normal 80 ks at 11.30 pm) on the down hill section. You do have to be vigilant but fighting it on the fact it was on a down hill grade may not help a great deal.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 06:58 AM

good luck mate, never contested one meself but it can be done. Was it ACA last night where people were pleading their case because they had a clean record for several years and got off because of that? One woman copped a speeding fine and wrote to the dept saying it was her 1st offence for 5 or so years and they waived the fine and issued her with a warning instead. Keep us posted.

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Everyone is entitled to get a 'warning' if they have had a good previous driving record BUT it must be on the lower end of the scale of speed. I'm not sure that 77 in a 60 zone would cut it. On a pedantic note re the heading :- Police cars don't issue speeding fines; police members do.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 07:03 AM

If you do have a clean record.... definately write in if they allow that sort of thing in your state. What's the worst that can happen? dcee

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 07:05 AM

At least you'll get an extension on your payment period.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 07:05 AM

Devils Advocate:- You know the area. You know it is downhill. You know the speed limit is 60kmh. You know you will do more than the speed limit if you do not apply your brake at some point if not more than once. Yet you do not apply the brake and exceed the speed limit. You are now the Magistrate. Would you let me off knowing the above. Add solicitors fees and court costs at the end of the day, whether you get off or not.... Will cost you more. I say a solicitor because the old adage always rings true. "A person who represents themselves before a court has a fool for a client." If you can find somewhere the Vicpol guidelines and protocols (I'm taking a stab that is where Donvale is) for use of Lidar radar enforcement, (if that is what they use in Vic) you may have a chance. NSW has specific guidelines now where hand held radar can be used and downhill grades need to be below a particular gradient, with a clear stopping path of I think 300 meters (don't hold me to it) otherwise they are not permitted to operate hand helds. Good luck

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 07:14 AM

A long, long time ago, when I was a young fella, I worked in E Donc and rode a motorbike. Tindalls Rd was one of my favorite lunch-time spin runs. Only amphometers in those days and you could easily spot them. FF to today: 77 in a 60 and you're gone! 5Kph and you might get off with a warning.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 06:54 PM

So if you only murder one person ......... are you entitled to get off with a warning because you've never murdered anyone before ........ say in the last five years?

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 07:24 PM

So if you only murder one person …...... are you entitled to get off with a warning because you’ve never murdered anyone before …..... say in the last five years?

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 07:34 PM

This isn't a question specific to Elimb and I am certainly not having a dig, but to anyone who thinks they have been hard done by from a copper hiding behind bushes or going down a hill.... Q. Have you ever, in your life sped on a flat road by that same amount or more? Do you think all the times that you get away with speeding don't count for anything when you get done going down hill? Not much at all annoys me in this world, but one thing that gets my goat is when people whinge they got caught by a copper hiding behind abush or a bus stop or something like that. If they were speeding it shouldn't matter one lick of difference is the copper was playing like a funnel web spider or hovering 10 metres over the road wearing a pirate costume, if you are speeding you deserve to pay the fine. I am not saint, i have had my share of fines when I was younger but after working in the Civil Engineering and Traffic field for the last 10 years I know why roads are posted at the speeds they are, they aren't just made up by Governments to raise money they are done for your safety. enough of the holier than thou crap, but if everyone drove like they made getting to home to their family the number one priority there wouldn't need to be traffic police to fine us

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 07:49 PM

make sure you write in twice though, from my own experience they simply give a generic note first and respond to your reasosns second, best of luck but i dont like your chances

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 07:58 PM

Crap, I have been fined for speeding 4 times in my life, twice by fixed cameras that were positioned for the purpose of revenue raising, twice by hand held gizmos for the same purpose, it has nothing to do with safety and everything to do with making money. I got some slight satisfaction from BPaying my last fine addressed to thieving c**ts.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 08:44 PM

Waffle, speed signs on a Local Government road are set but Councils, if a copper fines you on one of them all the money goes to the State Government. There is zero benefit in a Council posting a lower speed on a road so it can be used as revenue raising, they don't get a cent of it. My opinions are only based on what I know from a Council level. State and Fedral roads are a different story, where I am sure I'd imagine most of the fixed cameras are, but I know for certain that any locals roads are posted as they are for your safety, well maybe not your's cause everyone thinks they are an above average driver but for the goose who cannot drive and may crash into someone you love...

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 09:00 PM

I wasn't referring to local government limits, one example of my fines was near Byron Bay, one of the steepest down hill gradients I've seen, halfway down is a 60k sign and a camera at the bottom, this camera makes over $3m per year.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 09:47 PM

yep, I don't agree with that - that is wrong ! My only other thought on that is that there must have been some reason for it to be posted at 60 in the first place (other than for a good spot for the NSW Government to get some more coin) But I don't know the road well enough, or it's history or the design rationale behind it so I can't give an informed comment on it

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 09:53 PM

Its posted as roadworks which have been ongoing for 5 years with no sign of work.

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Posted 15 October 2010 - 09:56 PM

I know why roads are posted at the speeds they are, they aren’t just made up by Governments to raise money they are done for your safety
So thats why when i drove up the coast earlier in the year and drove through 30 kms of roadworks with a speed limit of 40kmph with not one single road worker in sight but i saw 2 parked cop cars with their radar out and at least 2 driving along the road. Seems like revenue raising to me. The road is normally 90kmph. The road can still safely be travelled at this speed. Theres no workers to keep "safe" so theres no other reason. I will give in that it would be hard to keep changing the speed limit when there is and isnt workers there but then why have cops all over the place trying to "protect us"




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