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#1 chinaalan

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Posted 01 April 2009 - 07:17 AM

IOver the past month or so, I have developed a slice:the powers to be here say that I am turning my hips too fast during the downswing and leaving the clubhead behind. I can understand that this is the problem, but how the hell do I stop doing it? Anyone out there have any drills that I can use to slow the hip turn down?

#2 Slappa

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Posted 01 April 2009 - 07:21 AM

I had the same problem a while back. My coach got me doing a drill which involved turning my belt buckle a tiny bit to the left (left handed golfer) before my takeaway, with the feeling of having my hips in that position at impact. While it felt as though my hips were in the same position at impact as the takeaway they were infact just slowing down a little bit.

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 10:19 PM

Thanks Slappa, I'll give that a try.

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 03:52 AM

Interesting you should post this chinaalan as I have developed a slice over the last few months and a golfing buddy told me that on the bad shots my hips had started to rotate a lot before i'd evenstarted my downswing! No idea why. I made a mental note of twisting my right knee less and it seemed to prevent a huge hip turn. Good luck!

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 07:55 AM

make a swing which feels like your only using your arms on the downswing. try not to put any rotation into it apart from your arms coming down and through... this is a mental thing you can try, it works for me when i start opening up too quickly and have to let my hands come through first.

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 05:39 PM

Your hips aren't rotating too fast, they're rotating too soon. Your hips (and shoulders) shouldn't start rotating until your weight reaches your left pivot point. You can rotate as hard and as fast as you like once your weight is left. Good player's hips are rotating open through impact; poor player's hips open too soon, consequently they have no rotational energy left at impact.

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 08:48 PM

good point nidan.

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 09:09 PM

You are not rotating too fast, you are rotating too far. It is a chain reaction... Hips, shoulders, arms, hands! Stop your hips and keep rotating... start walking left... Go with just arms/shoulders or arms/shoulders first and you can start walking to the right. Good players rotate their hips first but it is merely to fire the first link in the chain, its quick and violent but it stops as the next link takes over! And many good players and big hitters begin their plant/rotation whilst the club is still going back but this is an advanced move... Just my opinion...

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 09:25 PM

Thanks guys I will trty some of this out at the weekend.

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 09:32 PM

You are not rotating too fast, you are rotating too far. It is a chain reaction… Hips, shoulders, arms, hands! Stop your hips and keep rotating… start walking left… Go with just arms/shoulders or arms/shoulders first and you can start walking to the right.

Good players rotate their hips first but it is merely to fire the first link in the chain, its quick and violent but it stops as the next link takes over! And many good players and big hitters begin their plant/rotation whilst the club is still going back but this is an advanced move…

Just my opinion…

It is quite possible that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.

Hi Junior how are you,just a small Question if I may,what is your opinion of Tom Tomasello,s description of swing sequence--as follows- right hip-right arm -right arm left hip,more or less pivot sequence as well,cheers mate ,keep up the good work. Never got to see appeal day,due to family illness,that comes first.

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 09:47 PM

Dont know mate am not familiar with it... Would hate to comment on something I was not familiar with. I can only tell you what I am feeling when I am swinging well... Rock - Left foot plant - hip drive - lat stretch - float - hands drawn in and back - core fire - shoulder thrust - violent arm swing - club feels like it is coming from behind - hard wrist snap - 2nd pivot fire - continued acceleration until shaft snaps of back or hat!! lol When I swing well my feet feel very light then very heavy... (hint) Sorry bout your family illness, absolutely fam always first!!! Hope they are better now.. Junior

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 10:06 PM

Thanks for reply Junior,when you have nothing to do,lol,try it for fun and tell me if you would "what you feels happening"that aligns with you brief but good description of what you "FEEL"in your swing,especially with your left side.cheers As for fam,he,s got no more than 4 weeks,I was lucky to give him his last game of golf in a buggy on appeal weekend

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 11:28 PM

Im very sorry to hear that brownman, my deepest sympathies to you and your family. At least he got that one last game in and I am sure it is a memory that you and he will both cherish forever! Kindest regards to all concerned Junior

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 01:45 AM

I'm having the opposite problem ! Hooking the fairway woods that also drove that way once in a while. I could see that my hands rolled over. Hands too fast or too early ? I suspect it is the start of the back swing. I will try a very slow takeaway and straight back ward away from target the next time at the practice range. I also had a BODY PUMP class after a 2 months rest. Does it affect the golf swing?

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 03:02 AM

absolutely ellimb... physical fatigue which can last up to 96 hours after training will affect motor skill performance and neurological muscle firing ability... Have a rest, let it go and get back to it when you feel energised. This is why athletes taper weight training weeks prior to competition! Junior

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 03:17 AM

Tks Junior

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 08:39 AM

If you all train your hands therefore clubface to move through the ball the way you would like - then see how hard you can drive or swing them with the body and arms. Jerking you arse around won't do it for long. You will be working from the right end of the horse and cart. The bloke in the cart tells the horse where to pull the cart. The horse can only power all over the place.

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 09:01 AM

Move the hands through the ball the way you want... mmm Educated hands? It's a term I'm hearing a lot around here. Mostly it seems to me to be used to mean the ability to feel the lag and align the left hand the way you want through impact. Then I hear something like this, and it seems to mean something entirely different. When I was looking at Natural Golf and some Moe Norman stuff they talked about just swinging the arms and the body would support it. Made sense. And in a way it worked. But there was a catch - you had to be able to swing the arms straight along the target line, not out to the left and not out to the right. And I really struggled to do that consistently. But what about if the focus was narrower? What if I just sort of imagined a ball sitting in the air on a straight line between my sternum and the actual ball and just swung my hands in a circle to try and whack that ball with the back of my left hand? What if I then trained myself one little cheat - I'd monitor the pressure on my right index finger's first section to ensure that I kept some pressure there consistently throughout the swing? Would my hips and shoulders move and turn to support that? My legs? Would I be more likely to retain balance when I'm not conscious of swinging this weight at the end of a long stick? Frankly I don't have any idea! :o) Might be fun to find out when it stops raining!

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 10:46 AM

Try this link http://www.pgatour.c...tcom208.pgatour Whats in the bag for luke donald.......He mentions a drill he uses with a empty shaft. Might be worth a try

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 10:49 AM

Doesn't look like the link worked......type in Bag in the search then load the luke donald whats in the bag.




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